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[Venting] What kind of dumbasses think we pretend to be trans?? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) by AllukaTheCutie7725@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/mtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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I just recently had some awful DM harassment from a transphobic idiot who told me that I was pretending to be trans. It was dealt with but I'm still left wondering. Why do some people believe that we would pretend to be trans? What do they think someone would gain by "pretending" to be trans. It just seems so stupid because I've dealt with so much oppression and people invalidating me my whole life, and yet they still think I'm pretending to be trans for some some reason...? Why? What the fuck does someone gain from pretending to be trans? This makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

Sorry for this rant, I really needed to get this off my chest.

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 1 points 6 minutes ago

They might not believe that and just be trying to gaslight/troll.

They might have heard it's trendy and gets you cool points and somehow don't see how hard it could be.

They could just think trans people don't exist, therefore all must be fake.

They could think you are a troll trying to make trans people look bad.

If you are an NB, it could be someone who doesn't believe in NBies or certain subsets.

If you aren't trying to transition medically, they could be transmeds.

If you suffer from things like depression, they could think you are trying to look for an excuse to blame that on.

Could be someone who is in denial themselves and part of their denial is believing certain things are normal for their agab and trans people saying it's part of their trans experience challenges that. Similar to neurodivergent parents who deny their children's neurodivergent because the parent think of themselfs as neurotypical.

All kinds of excuses people could have for their beliefs. Pretty much all of them boil down to some level of transphobia.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 2 points 46 minutes ago

similar to people who think sexuality is a “choice”?

[–] trans_Sophie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 hours ago

I mean we get the chasers, being banned from sports, degradation... It goes on and on, who wouldn't want to be trans🤷‍♀️

Sarcasm aside, they heard an old guy say it so that's what they know about trans people.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You assume they think through it beyond "I don't get it therefore it's fake"

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 1 points 41 minutes ago

This and maybe more specifically, every opinion that doesn’t validate their worldview is "virtue signaling."

[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 21 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

My dad's hot take on trans people was that they're transitioning to upset their parents. I'm not trans but this shit got me so pissed and is maybe the dumbest and most offensive shit I've ever heard him say. I'm sorry that you're in a position where people feel they can offload horrible marginalising garbage onto you. You're absolutely right... It makes no fucking sense.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 3 points 28 minutes ago

Classic narcisism, thinking they’re the center of everyone’s mind at all times.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Do people not exercise theory of mind enough? Does he not ever realize that people live whole lives outside of what he sees and imagines?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 45 minutes ago

Do people not exercise theory of mind enough?

Literally no.

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/can_your_politics_predict_how_empathic_you_are

[–] janet_catcus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

probably to busy trying to ignore whatever his own life has in store for him?

in cases like these i default to my pet theory of "transphobic people are without realizing basically just inexperienced, scared little kids pretending to be adults, just like everyone else. except these havent seen so much of the world and a little 'exposure therapy' could actually work wonders if anyone really gave one of them an actual chance.. but nobody has to put up with their bullshit so nobody will 🤷‍♀️ " (speaking about a singular transphobic person. a whole herd of them is just a stampede waiting to happen)

but maybe that is just naivety on my part, believing that nobody is so lost they are irrecoverable :3

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think your dad has the dumbest take I've heard yet

[–] socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It makes perfect sense if you're a person who thinks they're the absolute center of the world and you judge every other person's actions by how they impact you personally, I suppose.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 7 points 4 hours ago

Sometimes I see people like that and I wonder how they have kids, let alone a romantic partner

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It is dogma mixed with the unfamiliar. It is very similar to how people that do not GAF about me and my physical disability like to say I'm fine and just lazy or it is in my head. That is the most destructive bullshit anyone can say to me, but I have learned to translate it as them saying "I am a worthless homicidal fuck that wants to kill you," and that seems to help keep things in perspective. There are a whole lot of stupid people in the world. Average is a very low bar and half of the world is below it.

"Never argue with stupid people. They bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience."

Best part of that quote is when they agree and take it as a complement.

[–] Tahl_eN@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

I asked the same question about gay people back in the 90s and it was the start of me moving away from a conservative mindset. I'm straight enough that the answer teenage me landed on was "someone gayer than I am, but unwilling to admit it to themselves. Or a liar."

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

It’s in the MAGA rhetoric, sadly.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The same kind of dumbass who pretends to be cis, and hetero. It's projection. They're so used to "pretending", they can't imagine it could be any other way.