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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (6 children)

how does minimum wage only double when products go 16x? jesus the education system really is shit in the US. there would be constant riots in the streets if only people knew arithmetic

[–] Zulu@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe the common strawman is "if min wage goes up, prices go up" which..... You know just admits the system is there to abuse. "If you make more money then we'll take more money from you".

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

the idea is that wages are part of expenses which contribute to prices, which is why you need more regulation about this sort of thing. the best part is that when the min wage doesn't go up, the prices still go up.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a LOT of people that don't understand inflation at all. They think something along the lines of, "I worked myself through college making $5/hr and it was hard and I didn't get to buy all the things I wanted but it was fine. These lazy entitled people want several times that much for the same work?!"

So it's not just basic math but basic economics and a basic understanding of reality that are sorely lacking.

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[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Because minimum wage is defined by laws and has been purposefully kept below inflation. It hasn't substantially increased (or maybe not at all) in my lifetime.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Inflation is purposely misexplained as something specific to a time period. So people aren't aware that it's a measure of velocity, how fast prices are rising. Our political system also gives the illusion of a reset every four years.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 1 year ago

They obfuscate the data from people and they don't try to find it. Obviously they know that 16 is bigger than 2..

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Look at how much corporate profits have gone up though

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

NO BURGER????

For real though, can't even buy a 20 piece nugget anymore on an hour's work, shit's fucked

[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The last time this showed up people pointed out that big Mac’s cost more like $1.50 in 1980. Still multiple BMs per hour but not as drastic.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

multiple BMs per hour

This sounds drastic no matter what the number is.

I'm sorry, I had to.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Plausible with that many big macs, though.

[–] barooboodoo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I wasn't alive then but 50 cents seemed low for a big mac, even for the '80s

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And a Big Mac isn't $8 around here and no one is paid federal min wage. It's $13 in Florida and $15 IRL. Using the app to save, it's probably 2.5 burgers.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big Mac is 5.19 in the app for me.

And I don’t know if this is a good indicator of actual minimum wage, but fast food salary on average is way more than $13 an hour. Funny that Florida is right at the bottom of that list. You’d be better off in West Virginia (brand new sentence).

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-FAST-FOOD-Worker-Salary-by-State

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unexpected, that's much higher than I expected for Tennessee. The manager positions at the fast food places here are on 17, yet the average fast food worker is over 17 for the state according to that

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m sure it varies where you live and what the restaurant is. I live near Nashville and saw some fast food places paying $19 an hour starting.

Yeah I'm an hour south in Columbia. 50 miles each way to find a decent job

[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 18 points 1 year ago

And it's been used enough that Argentina artificially set the price of Big Macs for a few years to hide their rampant inflation.

[–] John@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In Germany the minimum wage is 12.82€/hour. The price for a Big Mac is 4.19€

BM/Hour: 3,07

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where do you get a 4,19€ Big Mac? From what I can tell, a Big Mac here is currently 6,29€, which would place the BM/hour score at 2.04.

If you exclude sales tax (which is usually included in Germany but excluded in the US) for a fairer comparison, the Big Mac would be 5,29€ and the BM/hour score 2.42.

But also, a single Big Mac in the US seems to cost around $5.99. The $8 is for a Menu (which would put the BM/h score at 1.24 instead of 0.91).

A BM Menu in Germany is currently 11,49€ (or 9,66€ without sales tax), which would put our BM/h score at 1.11 (or 1.33 respectively).

So, the chart oop posted might be a bit misleading, since I doubt the $0.50 in 1980 was a Big Mac menu but rather a single Big Mac (although I‘m to lazy to look that up now). And also, we’re not that substantially better off in here Germany rn and a single Big Mac seems to be a comparatively better value than a menu, when compared to the US.

I’d also find comparison numbers from Germany in 1980 quite interesting but I’m also too lazy to look that up. Maybe someone else is bored enough…

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BMs per hour

"I just can't stop pooping!"

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

A big mac is sure to give you multiple BM's per hour

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BMs per hour means something else in this house

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're having 6.20 BMs per hour, God help you.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

IBS: "Hold my beer."

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's an aggregate statistic.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 15 points 1 year ago

I still think it is wild that we don't include house prices in inflation, cause it was removed to use rent to match the "average American experience" which just means they no longer expect average people to ever buy a house.

So no houses and no burgers.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

These big mac prices aren't accurate

Oh no, here's where you are wrong. See, it's a decline for the proletariat only. The bourgeoisie is doing just great.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dragonborn3810@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like that it implies landlords aren't people

[–] JLock17@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Implying well known facts.

[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heh, look at this dumb sattire. There's no way it would take simplifying the economy down to a single food item before our superior American intellect realized that our government was actually our enemy. Anyway...

Trump take egg

/s

[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The BigMac Index was actually a really good metric. It's sold nearly everywhere in the world, was a low margin product, and depends on a complex global supply chain that's a good stand-in for other supply chains. It was used as a way to cut-through governments reporting innacurate numbers.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile in Denmark.

Minimum wage for McDonalds employees: 20$+supplements. Big Mac $7

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Brazilian minimum wage: 1,528BRL per month, or roughly 6.30 reais per hour.

Big Mac price: 24 reais, or 4 hours of minimum wage work.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A Big Mac is $5.19 in my McDonald’s app. Where is this $8 Big Mac?

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Probably California but the minimum wage here for a McDonald's employee is $20 per hour. That's still more than 2 big Mac's per hour

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The biggest indicator of American decline is actually how many hours of work it takes to earn one ounce of gold. In 1950- 46 hours 1956-35 hours 1968-22 hours Today- it is between 289 and 79 hours factoring in time and a half overtime. Minimum wage in America has lost between 84-93% of its value using this metric.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Right now, where I live in Canada, you can buy approximate 3.5 big macs per hour on minimum wage.

Not bad, but not great either.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

“Big Mac” now is forever cemented as a mean gay red pony in my mind… thanks, Tamers12345

[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

After reading this I am both poor and hungry.

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