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[–] Dmian@lemmy.world 152 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

The only acceptable number, but not only in Europe, everywhere, is “0”.

And if you already don’t know why: a billionaire has way too much money and power, and can influence governments in their favor, creating unsurmountable inequality and subverting the system’s rules. Billionaires are the cause why capitalism is failing (and since no one can stop them now, it will completely fail, and will drag the environment, and human survival, with it).

[–] occhineri@feddit.de 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, but capitalism isn't failing: billionaires ARE capitalism

[–] Dmian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When I say capitalism is failing is because for it to work, it need rules (offer/demand, competition without monopolies, etc), that these billionaires have eliminated or subverted. They changed the game rules in their favor, and are now so powerful it’s impossible to stop them (non violently, I mean). I honestly think we just entered a dark era of humanity, one in which its existence is in question. And yes, I’m a pessimist, but I try to be optimistic with all my might, but everything I see or read prevents me from being optimistic.

[–] occhineri@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

When I say capitalism is failing is because for it to work, it need rules

Because it is unstable. It is much easier to disrupt the system than to balance it in a stable-like state against it's nature. Capitalism has gotten out of hand and will collapse sooner or later. And no: I am not a pessimist

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 years ago

I think the better comparison would be the number of billionaires per capita. Say, per million people. Not that this isn’t a good infographic - keep the overall count. But include the per capita as a frequency-of-occurrence stat.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We need an EU wide 100% wealth tay for any wealth over say 15million€. I am willing to negotiate about the second number.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Tay them all!

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So anyone who gets a certain amount of money might as well close all the companies they own?

[–] Kiliyukuxima@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Or give them to the employees or something. Probably 15M is a too low threshold to enforce that but it would work. It would basically distribute the wealth amongst the people who produce it

[–] storcholus@feddit.de 15 points 2 years ago

Maybe not 15 million, but let's say at 100 million you get a dog park named after you with a statue that says you won at capitalism

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[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Lemonyoda@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didnt knew this Graph but damn..

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

And this is why you could tax them at 80 or even 90% and they would still have more money than 90% of the rest of the population of earth.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago

That's a lot of food to eat. Better get started.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trickle down economics works like a piñata. Once you break it open with blunt force, the stuff you want starts to trickle down!

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Jakylla@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Only 3 in Monaco ? *suspicious*

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

There’s some bookkeeping sorcery going on there, gotta be

Also: why’s it yellow? It’s got 3, so it should be green

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[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That’s a lot of guillotines

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

Even if we had to use a private submarine for each one it would still be worth it

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[–] taladar@feddit.de 29 points 2 years ago

It would make more sense to use per capita numbers.

[–] Frittiert@feddit.de 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

These are eatable numbers

[–] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Am I the only one who finds the color scheme unintuitive? (a comment more suitable for DataIsBeautiful, probably)

[–] corship@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It's a barrier free color scheme. I like it tbh

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

It’s important to remember that while all billionaires are bastards, some are just evil because they take value they neither earned nor need, meanwhile others got rich off being the family whose spat between cousins was WWI and are actively working to undermine left wing and pro equality movements literally today including conspiring to push bigotry towards lgbt people to distract from the class war

[–] Blaubarschmann@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago

Is this based on nationality (defined as: has that nations passport) or billionaires actually living in that country? Because probably many billionaires don't live in their home country or pay taxes there

[–] lou_profile@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Portugal's only billionaire might be Abramovich, who gained PT nationality through a very dubious program

[–] botorfj 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

didn't know we had so many billionaires!

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How the fuck is there so many and can we eat some?

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[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The one billionair in Estonia:

[–] genfood@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago

It's John Travolta in pulp fiction looking around not finding anyone

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Another reason why Portugal is doing it right

[–] pgp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Not really, we might have only one billionaire, but all the millionaires are very greedy, as well as the upper clear as a whole. Combining that greed with the sky rocketing cost of living, mainly due to digital nomads and airbnb, we're certainly not an example. Just a collapse waiting to happen.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Surprising that monaco "only" has 3 billionaires.

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