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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Answer: it doesn't.

That was never the goal. The goal is getting just enough working people riled up about bullshit and non-issues like race and identity politics, then install someone like donvict to hand the country over to oligarchs.

The peasants can go fuck themselves as far as Republicans are concerned. Nice job, SUCKERS!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 51 points 3 days ago

He already has your vote. He’s no longer interested in doing further business with you.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's the best part...it doesn't.

[–] chris@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago

It’s a feature, not a bug.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 22 points 2 days ago

If you thought trump was ever going to help working people, you're a fucking idiot.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are all these people getting fired with no cause just taking it? Nobody is complaining, no strikes planed?

Or is the media just not reporting it?

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are tons of protests going on everyday around DC. There's some planned for tomorrow at HHS HQ specifically for this concern

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Awesome... keep them up!

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Network news media doesn't generally report protests unless they are bloody or have at least thousands of people per location, it gets in the way of fear mongering and ad sales.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

yes, that was my suspicion because I keep seeing pics and anecdotes but basically nothing else

I cannot imagine thousands fired on a wimp and nothing actually happening

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

DOGE stands for Dept of Oligarch Grift Efficiency

No need to even pretend they want to help people now that they're in power. Their goal by gutting the federal agencies is to destroy their ability to function, so they can turn the functions of government over to private enterprise owned by the oligarchs. The worse the damage caused by these firings, the faster they can say "we need to privatize" the functions of that agency. The "Efficiency" part of DOGE means "get more taxpayer money into oligarchs' pockets more efficiently"

[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

78 million voters should have asked themselves that before voting.

The common clay of the new West.

[–] podperson@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

People of the land.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Whole lot of idiots thinking he'd be the same as Kamala on not only jobs, but things like Gaza.

Fucking morons.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

He's doing The Weave but with executive actions. See, it's all confusing and random until it suddenly all comes together aaaaaand Dictatorship!

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

Since when did Trump care about working people?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also, is the probation period in Murica a WHOLE YEAR??

I have never heard of anything more than 6 months and that is in shitty work places only desperate people apply to

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For federal career civil servant jobs, yes. It's because those jobs have (until now/soon of course) protections so they can't (until now/soon) be easily fired for political reasons every time the party in power changes. That's why the probation period (when they don't have those protections yet) exists so that there's time to evaluate if someone turns out not to be fit for the job, before civil service protection kicks in.

Of course the first thing trump did was decree the "Schedule F" tactic (see Project 2025), which will remove those protections from all federal jobs so anyone can be easily fired, but until that is fully in effect, they're going ahead with the low-hanging fruit and firing all the people who don't have the protections--those still on probation, which firings can't really be legally challenged like "Schedule F".

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know if these jobs are super rewarding and pay super well but I would not take a job with a 2 year probation period. I guess I've had the luxury not to need to.

The thought that anyone would dedicate 2 full years of their lives to a job and could be fired literally for no reason at all seems just cruel to me.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They're not supposed to be able to be fired for no reason. But now with trump all rules have been discarded since the constitution's "checks and balances" mechanism has collapsed.

I didn't go into all the details, but besides the civil service protections, many of these jobs require extensive training to learn the job (some are quite specialized) which is a significant investment. With some entry level positions, it's not uncommon for people to take a government job, get training and experience and then quit to go to the private sector for more money. This way the govt at least gets a certain return on their investment in training the employee. The incentive to stay for less pay after that is that after a certain number of years, you're vested meaning you get a pension, not to mention that theoretically you're doing something worthwhile serving your country instead of a for-profit corporation.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks for all the info

[–] StayDoomed@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For the federal government it is 1 or 2 years depending on your job type.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It’s still probably not legal. It’s established legal precedent that if you have a process you must follow it. I doubt they followed whatever process there may be, and am looking forward to hundreds of thousands of lawsuits

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago