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[–] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 252 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The definition of fascism is the marriage of corporation and state

  • Benito Mussolini

This is part of what true fascism looks like

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, well, what does that guy know about fascism?

[–] Kovukono@pawb.social 23 points 6 days ago

I thought he was mostly remembered for his diet plans.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Corporation in the sense he's using it is muddled, but what this is describing is accurate to what he meant. He meant that industry should be run by cooperative alliances that are under the fascist state. Like most fascists, he was always shifting what he meant by corporatism based on whatever rhetorical expediant that was most useful at the time. Corporatism sounds good but in principle it doesn't describe how exactly you form the corporations and how they govern themselves. It's accurate in the sense that this is an example of what he desired in using state power to always be a boot over any cooperative.

See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism to understand it's essentially a theory to contrast itself with Marxisim without actually describing specifics so it has wildly different interpretations that basically boil down to "let's get together and do what's best for everybody." Who knows how to draw the rest of the owl though.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's looked that way for a long time, we just can't play pretend, anymore. And for those who keep trotting out the "told you so," we told you the Dems needed to stop playing pretend and get serious with serious candidates, rather than slightly less fascist fascists.

referring to joe biden and kamala harris as "slightly less fascist than the guy who literally failed to coup the federal government" is quite a wild comparison to be making.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 201 points 5 days ago (3 children)

At least name the rep. There’s plenty of us here who would gladly call them.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 14 points 4 days ago

Or the employer.

[–] Bojack411@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago

It really does seem like they are just trying to click bait when they pretend to not want to name the Employer

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I looked up the original thread and given that OP posts in r/Omaha, it's likely Don Bacon but since that's a small district it could also be one of the surrounding districts (possibly even in Iowa)

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Iowa has GOPer reps. And they are all fascists.

Of course they are; they're GOP

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 36 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think the quick recourse is to find a new job and quit with no notice and no orderly handover once secured.

The longer term recourse involves lawyers but might end up with the OOP owning the company or at least getting a huge settlement.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

And that's exactly, precisely what they want. Their goal is to destroy the government, that's the whole reason for all of it.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

More likely lawyer path is a lot of debt

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 138 points 6 days ago

we have a government agency to help with that sort of thing.

oh. right. had.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 119 points 6 days ago (12 children)

We warned the people who sat home on election day about project 2025 and yet they covered their ears and enabled all of this.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 80 points 6 days ago (39 children)

And Democrats were warned that they need to stop putting their thumbs on the scale to push the most dog shit candidates that don't promise anything that will help the working class. Fascism happens when democracy is unresponsive to the needs of the working class, and for the last 50 years Democrats have just been great at finding excuses for why they can't do something. Do you think Trump will listen to the parliamentarian if they disagree with something?

Fuck, Democrats have even been voting for his cabinet picks, despite claiming Trump is a fascist. They all voted to confirm Marco Rubio.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And voters were warned with years of inaction that they needed to start being more engaged.

The reason we have so many shit candidates is because people don't show up for the real ones.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 5 days ago (15 children)

"The purpose of a system is what it does". If our system consistently produces shit candidates, shit policies, shit results and demoralizes voters... Then we have a shit system and nothing will ever improve until we demand a modern multiparty democracy with proportional representation and safe guards against fascism.

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[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Democrats were warned

So, the litmus test of this logic is this: Do we blame the opposition for the Nazi party? Should we start doing that too after 80 years?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (4 children)

It's a concurrence. Who do you blame for the rise of the nazi party: the nazis who kept rigging the deck in their favor and sowing discord, the conservatives who enabled them, the ineffective social democrats whom people were disillusioned with, the people who held out against voting for them, or the people who basically were screaming at the latter three to do fucking something.

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

With the amount of screaming and championing that the Dems have ignored I refuse to believe it's incompetence or ignorance. This is wilful and active support for the party they claim they're in opposition to.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I was told by a coworker, just after election day, that Project 2025 was just propaganda, and that "Democrats have their own propaganda too you know..."

Shit left me speechless. I was just like, let's revisit this conversation in three months.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

mine were like yea but the price of eggs

I assure you we now talk about the price of eggs, inflation, and job security daily

and by that I mean I talk at them while they pretend it is all fine

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's a really interesting time right now to talk to them about those egg prices.

I know they're going to stick their fingers in their ears and go "LA LA LA BIDEN" but you can't stop.

Seriously, we're in this mess because they wore us down so we stopped engaging. START ENGAGING AGAIN. We have to make this uncomfortable for them, all of them, they have to identify the correct source of this discomfort too. Stop caring if they scream or whine or threaten to not associate with you or ANYTHING else. We have to start getting some thicker fucking skin.

You know all that shit you see on your feed "Epic leftist DESTROYS prominent conservative!" and it's some select clip of a talk show or interview? You know all those smug "leopards ate their faces" posts that make it look like the right broadly is suffering under its own folly and we all just need to sit back and chuckle?

IT'S ALL BULLSHIT. NONE OF THAT MEANS ANYTHING. We are in the most danger of losing America than we've EVER been in since the revolutionary war itself. The right is NOT running scared, they're not worried, they're not suffering. Not yet at least.

They're celebrating in the streets because they think they're winning. Your TASK, each of you, is to make sure that when it starts really hurting, when their social services dry up, when their VA checks bounce, when their childcare subsidies are revoked, when their food stamps are canceled... is to draw for them a direct line between who they fucking voted for, and what they've lost.

You might think this sounds stupid and obvious, and that's the same conditioning that made you think we were going to win. Don't be naive. Build communities. Get informed. Get in people's fucking faces and who CARES if you get attacked, insulted, hit, screamed at or filmed? What TRULY do we have to lose when we're on the verge of losing everything?

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[–] msage@programming.dev 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So did you revisit that conversation?

Because I've heard that exact sentence from my buddy, who is from Eastern Europe - still talking about the US. Where did they get that info, I will never know.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I voted for Harris out of harm reduction with a funeral dirge in my heart yet again voting for neoliberal scum that sold out the country to the corpo Fascists lock step with Republicans for decades, but is this the resistance from now on, or will we eventually stop scolding what is now the past hoping it will change the present or future?

Because it won't. You can't shame his voters, Republicans have been immune to shame since Reagan, and scolding the low information "I'm not political, teehee when's football/Reality Show crap on" people who haven't had anything at all to vote FOR, only against the greater evil for the last 50 years will only make them roll their eyes and remain disengaged.

Either foment hot revolution starting with destroying the capital markets, steal the DNC with a socialist populist as trump did as a fascist populist to the RNC, or back a socialist Party. Everything else is masturbation on a sinking ship with the capitalists tearing new holes every day.

Because either under neoliberals or Fascists, the capitalists are unrestrained. And if the capitalists remain unrestrained, the planet WILL burn in our lifetimes for all of humanity effectively forever, as millions of years is forever to our little monkey brains.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There are microplastics in my kids' brains, but by God let's not slow down fracking in Pennsylvania.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Did a little bit of Reddit sleuthing, and it appears that the user lives in Nebraska, most likely in the Omaha area. That would mean that their representative is most likely Don Bacon, though if they live a little south of the city, it's not impossible that the representative is Mike Flood. Still, based on the users activity and the district maps, my money is on Don Bacon.

[–] Brosplosion@lemm.ee 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don Bacon sounds like a corny name for a pig mob boss in a satirical Animal Farmesque story.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago

You come into my barn, on the day of my piglet's wedding, and ask me to do murder, for swill...

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

so.... what im hearing is that we should doxx don bacon?

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

You are discovering what rel Freeze Peach was and how you don't have it anymore

[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I know some illegal recourses, and if they try to illegally destroy American lives then turnabout is fair play.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 37 points 6 days ago
[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (5 children)

This is a good opportunity to remind people to search yourself on the major search engines and take whatever steps necessary to remove your online presence.

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