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[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 1 points 9 minutes ago (1 children)

Blaming capitalism for domain names being a nightmare is hilarious, they are insanely cheap its 12$ a year for a .com, that is all, lol.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 1 points 7 minutes ago

This is just straight up bad planning, they said they have jobs and lives like bro you turn on autorenew you put money in the card, any local business has no issues holding their domain for a decade lol, how do you just not make having it with the person hosting the site a priority.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 89 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

quite vocal about how the world should be organized, but forgot to pay the domain dues

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Remember kids, this is why you still need money. This is literally how the Soviet Union collapsed and why China today became a state capitalist.

[–] m_f@discuss.online 37 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (15 children)

DNS is neoliberalism incarnate 😂

DNS is the most neoliberal shit system that too many have just accepted as how computers work and always worked to the point where I have heard actual landlord arguments deployed to defend it

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 46 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I like how a whole community of academics and researchers worked out how to run a system which, even into the modern day which is kind of amazing, is largely disconnected from being abused by government and industry, and just runs according to what the people who need to use the system need it to do. You can get extorted for a fancy domain name if you really want to, but you can also go to Hostinger and get one for $5/year or something, because a lot of the core of the system is still pretty well-protected from being a cash-grab, through application of good governance and cooperation.

And then, somehow Hexbear managed to find their way around that system and fucked things up for themselves, and now it's all DNS's fault that they stepped in a pile of doo doo.

Never forget the architects of the internet were some of the vilest US MIC and Silicon Valley ghouls who ever lived and they are still in control fundamentally no matter how much ICANN and IANA claim to be non-partison, neutral, non-political, accountable, democratic, international, stewardshipismists

Yes, John Postel and David Mills were some of the vilest ghouls and so on. There was nothing about them that could provide a good model for how to do effective cooperation and succeed outside the systems of ownership that defined computing and telecommunications at the time, no particular reason they succeeded so dramatically and gave you, ultimately, this space to post pig balls today, and nothing about their work and traditions that needs to be defended against any silicon valley ghouls in the modern day. You fucking dingbat. I started out sticking up for you guys because no one deserves to get victimized by DNS scammers, but I take it back, go fuck yourselves.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, Postel has been dead since 1998 and Mills since 2010, so I don't think they're included in people still in control. So they've got that going for them, which is nice, I guess.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 1 hour ago

Architects of the internet, they said.

If they said the people currently in charge of the internet are an uneasy alliance of shadowy goons and idiots, afraid to openly break anything too irrevocably but occasionally trying to yank on the wires to see if there isn't some way a little more money inside them somewhere, I would generally agree.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 42 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Could not happen to a nicer bunch.

[–] splinter@hilariouschaos.com 16 points 10 hours ago (12 children)
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[–] shininghero@pawb.social 33 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

This is amusing, but one guy from the crosspost raised a valid problem:
If the hexbear domain fully dies, then all the idiots kept in containment by defederation will start jumping ship to other instances, and start causing trouble for users and moderators.

[–] cestvrai@lemm.ee 1 points 49 minutes ago

So the tankie idiots join the bigger pool of non-tankie idiots. How will we ever survive…

[–] spider@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

all the idiots kept in containment by defederation will start jumping ship to other instances, and start causing trouble for users and moderators

Many of them already do that with alt accounts, which would explain the considerable number of downvotes here.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Right. I don't mind people wearing certain red hats. It lets me know right up front what to expect. Reddit had the same dilemma once upon a time where specific subs were banned, and that just forced the roaches to hide in unknown areas where once you knew exactly where to find them all.

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

In my experience these "containment" boards/servers/sections tend not to work.

Long term it basically just creates a place that attracts those you don't want, and becomes place for those ideologies to spread. Then it either gets bad enough they take over (you know the site) or they break off wholesale and form a new community dedicated to those worst impulses (pyrrhic victory at best).

The best policy is to actively moderate, and in the case of the fediverse, defederate, those groups and those that give them shelter.

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[–] chameleon@fedia.io 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Heartbreaking: The Worst Capitalist Practice You Know Just Accidentally Picked A Funny Target

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 26 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

... if DNS is the worst capitalist practice you know of then you REALLY should spend less time shitposting and more time paying attention to the world.

[–] chameleon@fedia.io 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

(It's a joke/reference, I guess it's not 100% known though. My bad.)

I really do hate "I know what I have so you are going to pay whatever number I set" capitalism though, which is what they do here. These registrars figured out a loophole around the redemption grace period and are, from the start, set up to make you lose the domain and then spend significant money on a completely unfair auction where they have the power to plant fake bids, rather than paying the usual static redemption fees that aren't that excessive.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 12 points 9 hours ago

Tired: Lenin’s on sale again

Wired: Hexbear is a shitcoin

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So this is a man-in-the-middle attack waiting to happen isn't it? Buy the domain, setup a reverse proxy that points to the original hexbear server IP and start logging all requests.

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 12 points 8 hours ago

Probably. In all honestly, if you are a hexbear user, I'd be keeping a careful eye on who owns the domain when it magically pops back up.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So.... who's outbidding them? Someone from tankiejerk? Or are their being taken over by lemmygrad, to be introduced to Socialism with Dessaline characteristics?

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[–] eronth@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I need a reminder of what hexbear is about. I recall something... off.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

Tankie instance

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

They're part of the Tankie Triad (.ml, lemmygrad, hexbear). Quite possibly the worst of the triad

[–] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 hours ago

And here I was complaining about cheeseburger.social going down. Our user count was well into the dozens. Dozens!

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