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Received this from a friend in Oregon today. She has been refused any kind of passport and is effectively under travel ban. (www.tiktok.com)

submitted 5 days ago by Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world to c/lgbtq_plus@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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This is the reality of the current effect of the Executive orders regarding passports for trans people in the US. Because of the way things are implemented they are getting stuck in a no-mans land where they cannot have any travel papers at all. If you know a place to share this please do.

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[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have TikTok blocked entirely via Pi-hole. Can we get a screenshot or summary?

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Bullet points

She had her legal gender changed to female
She tried to get a password
They told her they'd only give it to her if it said male on it
She said that's fine
They walked that back and said she doesn't get any passport
She asked why
They threatened to arrest her

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Important note is that she was renewing her passport, and they refused to give her documents back.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

This is, indeed, extremely important. I don't know why I didn't include it.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

Much obliged.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd like to see this but won't make a TikTok account.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You don't need one.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Thanks, should've just clicked it. This is fucked up.

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I can't watch since I don't have an account. Can someone recap?

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 51 points 5 days ago

I don't suppose you can share in a form that isn't TikTok?

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 days ago

That is terrifying. I was expecting bullshit which is why I got my passport last year after Trump was elected, but this is much worse than I feared.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 5 days ago

No audio right now so I can’t watch the video, but if she hasn’t already done so please pass on to your friend that the ACLU is asking people who have experienced discrimination due to the new executive orders to contact them. Link here.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

From what I've heard, his EOs have caused massive confusion and stuff is getting stopped because government workers aren't sure what the new rules actually are. I would tell your friend to try again in a few months.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

stuff getting stopped because of confusion is one thing

threatening to arrest someone because they asked why they aren't allowed to get a passport issued to them is another

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I don't think it was just asking. They say they stayed until they were threatened with arrest. I think it was a situation where the office staff had nothing else they could do for them. In which case the applicant is told they have to leave, or be trespassed by police officers. It's not a threat for just asking a question, it's a threat for disrupting the office after all the answers available have been given. At least that's how it's supposed to be.

Which is why I suggest going back in a few months when they might have better guidance and thus, better answers. I do sympathize but the majority of civil servants aren't trying to be mean or cruel. They want to approve people.