The irony is overwhelming
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An irony curtain.
“You can’t steal that public data! We stole it first!”
And considering that’s exactly what Microsoft did to Apple with point and click, what irony!
They both stole point and click from Xerox if my memory serves me correctly
yeah xerox invented the GUI and mouse
Actually, it was invented by Douglas Engelbart in Stanford in the 60s
https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/162/000/
Xerox (re)made it for the PC in the 80s.
Ah TIL! I didn't know it originated elsewhere.
So while it's true Apple and Microsoft got the idea from Xerox, Xerox didn't originate it.
Oh really? **Rabbit hole unlocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcb-XF1RPQ
The relevant part of Pirates of Silicon Valley. After which you should watch the whole thing. It’s fan fiction, but it’s the best explanation of what happened between Apple and Microsoft leading into the 1990s.
Chinese company:
Truly, you have a dizzling intellect.
Microsoft:
AND IM JUST GETTING STARTED! Where was I?
Chinese company:
Stealing data....
Stealing from thieves isn't a crime.
Especially not when China turns around and Robin Hoods it back to the world.
Just saying.
China really did one on our oligarchs haha
Beautiful
These parasites expect me to side with them?
What, you mean like Microsoft, uh, OpenAI did?
Yep, NOW it's a problem, though! Because it's someone else doing the same thing, someone who isn't part of the human centipede starting at Trump's colon.
You mean they ripped off the copyrighted material that OpenAI ripped off?
we stole it fair and square
Somebody better call the WAHMBULANCE!
What data? they one OpenAI illegally obtained first?!
Are they worried that deepsink too stuff written by others, mixed it up, and repackaged it as it's own?
Well, yeah, that's all AI is. An expensive weighted pachinko machine, that uses human made content, and remixes it.
The question isn't whether they've used the same information. It's whether they've faked the process to achieve that 20x efficiency.
Look at it like a dictionary. Writing one from scratch is a huge task, no matter how many other books exist. How do you even go about finding all of the words?
But if other people have already written dictionaries, you can just use their word lists and go from there.
It's more efficient, but only because it's a completely different task.
No AI company has ever made any of their own content to train their models, they took what others created, remixed it, and presented it as something new.
This AI model did the same thing.
AI lost its job to AI.
Is it worth it? Let me work it I put my thing down, flip it and reverse it
It’s no crime to steal from a thief.
How could it be better when they just stole everything? The fact that its better basically proves that its not stolen.
What’s the game plan if they did?
Trade restrictions?
China already proved those did fuck all to stop them from developing their own model.
Ducking knew this ai bubble would burst sooner or later, just glad we can finally get on with it now.
If I stole from the thief, is it really stealing?
- some Philosopher probably
In Brazil, there's a rhymed saying: "ladrão que rouba ladrão tem 100 anos de perdão", it translates to "a thief that steals from a thief has 100 years of forgiveness"
It's a common proverb in Portuguese, not just in Brazil.
I’m sure now that OpenAI accuses DeepSeek of stealing they will now prove that they have rights to things that are being stolen, right? XD
So that means that Microsoft will pay compensation to us, right?
Time to talk about data rights :)
When you can't beat em, sue em. It's the American way.
Lol its like fucking lavrov from fucking russia screaming "this is against international law" when Europe froze their assets.
Bro... US reaction here is so pathetic...
The behavior is indicative of a bigger issue. They really do think only they are allowed to cheat and steal to win lol
Article from ft https://www.ft.com/content/a0dfedd1-5255-4fa9-8ccc-1fe01de87ea6
Looks like Microsoft is bracing for today’s earnings call
"Tom, if irony was strawberries we'd all be drinking smoothies right now"
"Waaaaah" you say?
Maybe they could buy a spare one from AliBaba. Maybe that would help..