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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know, I used to worry about China taking over the world, but honestly they look like a much better choice for a super power than the US is now.

I for one welcome our new communist overlords.

[–] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not long until those articles are written about the USA.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

Every sane person working in tech saw that coming, lol. Not saying that AI is bullshit, but it doesn't do anything that marketing want you to believe.

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mora@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

As someone who is rather new to the topic: I have a GPU with 16 GB VRAM and only recently installed Ollama. Which size should I use for Deepseek R1?🤔

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It'll require us to create an actual AI first, but yeah when that day comes shit's gonna get real wild real fast.

And no, the glorified spellchecker-on-steroids we're all calling AI but isn't actual intelligence isn't gonna cut it. Fun toy though.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's artificial as in fake, not man-made and it's been that way since the 70's. It's only the pop-sci definition that's inaccurate. AI has always been about faking decision making whether it is an adversarial AI in a video game or a chat bot. You can hate the overhyped wallstreet buzz around LLMs, but this semantic argument crap has just been annoying.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It’s artificial as in fake, not man-made and it’s been that way since the 70’s

'Artificial' isn't the part of it that's in question, lol. And computing has been around since way before the 70s.

AI has always been about faking decision making

That isn't intelligence.

adversarial AI in a video game or a chat bot

are examples of A but not I.

this semantic argument crap has just been annoying.

Agreed. Words have meanings, and while we fuck it up a lot by not understanding the meaning or by some marketing department deliberately using the wrong words to sell something to people who don't know any better, none of that means the words don't have meanings.

Unless we're going with the whole "we've used it incorrectly long enough that that's what it means now cuz language evooooolves!" shit, and honestly, maybe we have crossed that line, but that shit's above my paygrade.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

glorified spellchecker-on-steroids

What?

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

glorified spellchecker-on-steroids

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s more of a predictive keyboard on steroids.

Outlook's integration of said concept just made me copy and paste a sentence from notepad because it repeatedly tried to correct a phrase and wouldn't fucking stop doing it.

Because who the fuck would ever type the letters "my" and then follow it with a space?

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 day ago

Change happens very slowly then all at once - unknown, to me. I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole, it's 0330

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

What am I looking at? What's the reason behind this collapse?

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (4 children)

My horrible take only based on a few snippets:

Chinese open source AI releases, wipes the floor with US AI. Exposes AI as massively overvalued. Not surprising considering how big tech is just taking everything. Nvidia loses like half a trillion in value.

I’m happy to see a home run against the fascists that hurt them more than violence, at least to start. And I’m not a fan of AI (as hyped), but if it’s going to happen I’d rather it be with an open source performer as a base than the venture capitalists that abandoned us.

And really the US is no more trustworthy than China for those of us under the shadow of the big dick energy stuporpowers.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Happy to see free market working as intended.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Wait til they find a way to blame Biden for this!

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Not overvalued exactly. I believe the main point is they claimed to have used much much less power to train it, and that it demonstrates equivalent capability on much much less power.

There’s been a huge stock bubble on speculation of near infinite demand for datacenters, and NVidia processors. If DeepSeek’s claims are true, they just popped that bubble. We don’t suddenly need so many new datacenters. Demand for NVidia processors is not infinite, and their stock price is excessive compared to reality

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That open source performer is very much aligned with Winnie the poohs censorship, which should be worrying.

[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

The model has no censorship. Some websites running the model are hosted in China and thus do. Use one of the thousands of instances that run out of the US or run it yourself. It's not like chatgpt or other openai trash, it's system requirements are pretty low.

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[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Home run against the fascists, in favor of the other fascists

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At least red fascists get healthcare. American fascists are really going to need to step up their game on the bread and circus front.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would honestly be more pro China if they weren’t so unbearably heavy on the censorship front

[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't spread CIA lies, don't lessen the seriousness of politics. Worked out better for the average Chinese citizen than whatever the fuck the US has been doing.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“CIA Lies” Now I know not to take you seriously, thanks

Man, you're really not going to like what comes next in America's arc

[–] fallowseed@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

i would be more pro democracy if it didn't lead to every president we've had in the last 40 years

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[–] guy@piefed.social 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Chinese ChatGPT outperforms American models, on cheaper and less powerful chips as well. Leading to speculations of overvalued tech stocks in the US on an already very high valued market

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Chinese ChatGPT outperforms

On par with

on cheaper and less powerful chips as well.

Trained for less money on weaker hardware

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

It also open source.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Only some tech companies took a L, this is not a real image (unfortunately). The reason being that a chinese company managed to surpass OpenAI's best models with 6 million funding and limited access to hardware, proving that Nvidia's hardware isn't all that necessary, and OpenAI is throwing money out the window

https://finviz.com/map.ashx

Loss in trust in the US economy under Trump along with the appearance of a new "Hail Mary" by investors who can look outside of the US' national borders unlike Trump and his followers.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It’s not a collapse (yet). This is the first of many market corrections as AI drops back into the realm of reality.

[–] Dickarus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Some of you seriously need to stop living and dying by a daily heat map. We're at levels that we were at months ago. Anybody who bought months ago is doing fine. Learn to zoom out.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

After this one?

[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
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