Ugh...
i mean, theyre not wrong to raise suspicion on military worship on baseball games.
this post was submitted on 22 Jan 2025
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“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre
As long as they fill the empty silence with some kind of verbal answer, no matter how incoherent, the other party has to respond in good faith and the issue becomes the argument and not the thing
Every conversation with a conservative is just the copy and pasted Sartre quote over and over again.
Yeah I'd largely burnt out of talking with chuds about anything serious a year or two ago, I would only ask things because I was curious about what unhinged answer they'd have to a weird question. But after the election I've had no urge to even do that, I already know what stupid things they'll try and it's not even funny anymore.
Only one method, throughout all of human civilization, has ever worked to bring justice to the evil.
And I’m not allowed to post it.
I stopped engaging with chuds online back in like 2013 lol. They don't change and have only gotten worse since then.
Your valid points are greeted with transient goalposts and originally misrepresented ideas, unintentionally of course.
My favorite tactic is when they ask you a question, and then repeat a snarky response, loudly, as you try to answer. But if you get angry for having your buttons pushed, you're the problem.
What would have been discussions in a bygone era have now become dunk-a-thons. Ideas and opinions are no longer meant to be shared and debated for the betterment of all, but to be wielded to discredit and shame. Empathy and concern have been replaced by rage and confusion, an environment where no learning can ever take place.
From what I've noticed, even if the opposition has a valid point, it's buried under so much aggresion that the average person refuses to concede a point for three reasons:
(1) They know the opposition will not concede anything in return, because how could they possibly be wrong? Your opinion is wrong simply for not being theirs, and you aren't worthy of respect for it. They will forever have a point on the board, and you will never have one, so why give them the satisfaction?
(2) They don't want to admit to the opposition being right in any regard due to not wanting to overinflate their already stretched ego
(3) The point you concede will be used against you, out of context, repeatedly, as a dig.
Something, something, pigeons playing chess. It's better not to engage. They're all trolls.
Show me a video is a great response
In my defense ever since their response it still smells like someone's cooking toast in the next room.
What did they say after you asked for a video?
And did you say “one guy doing it once and apologizing is not the same thing at all and you’re proving my point” or did you just give up. Both are things I could see myself doing in response.
I was really just trying to share a crazy thing. The strange defense of said thing really derailed the convo.
Lol god dang that’s frustrating. My heart goes out to you man. But not in a Nazi way.
Look up thar coach. Also you.could weigh that single example against every account of it being used sincerely and co.e out on top. Also this baseball coach wasn't Elon Musk who is totally someone who would sing heil on purpose and there is plenty to back that up.
how this conversation probably continued:
them: “there’s plenty of videos going around”
you: “okay can i see one?”
them: “do your own research. you’ll see”
you: “just send me the last one you saw”
them: “google”
you: “so how many of these videos have you seen then?”
them: “personally one or fewer but many people are talking about these videos. just look it up”
then they walk away feeling like they won something
ask if baseball players do this every game 
The audience somehow scares me more than the actual Nazi sieg heiling
Call them a cuck.
As stupid as it is this is a real answer
Freire might not like it, but I feel like with folks who argue in bad faith the only real options are propaganda or violence.
"akshually baseball players invade austria and france and poland and the soviet union and many more every game"
Elon, famous for being even mildly athletic lmao
There's something about the head tilt that makes this photo 200% funnier to me.
Like the body is clearly photographed mid-action. But the head looks like it was taken from him slouching while watching TV and lazily pasted on.
Edit: and he's soy facing or whatever it's called. The open jaw smile. Gormless central European peasant dolt face.
my man has hops. what is that, a solid 2.5 inches off the ground? and he incorporated a soyface? he could have been a professional NBA player but he chose to save the world by inventing electric cars. he wouldn't even have to bribe ME with a horse, i'd suck his dick.
Elon's such an awkward freak he can't even get away with the ol' heil hitler among republicans like Laura Ingraham did.
oh yea. i always pretend to be a baseball player after a speech. that is real and normal and not a cope
Are they talking about when a batter points their bat upward like "I'm gonna hit this one way up there"?
If that is the case I'm pretty sure that was just a flex done in the paunch era of baseball. Pretty sure it hasn't been done by a pro in like 70 years. You could arrogantly call your shots when the pitcher had smoked 3 cigars that inning and was hung over on bootleg whiskey and could barely throw over 40
I don't even want to see what my family says...