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Meanwhile my lonely ass been sitting over here absolutely loathing Fallout: New Vegas since its release. I did not like that game. I probably would today if I got over myself and tried playing it again.
I read that tweet as something that wasn't really about Fallout: New Vegas, and more as something using it as a vehicle for a joke (about adult women being nostalgic for the games they played as teenage boys).
Yeah somehow almost everyone is missing the joke? π
The joke is partly that lots of trans women in particular enjoyed this game in particular, so plenty of people who noticed the switcheroo in the tweet will still see it as an opportunity to talk about the game rather than seeing the game as something irrelevant that could be swapped out for another.
But why trans women?
Boys will be boys
Often men wanna be inside a women, these people found the cheat code.
Oh we all got it, but our reaction was to relate warmly.
i had a hearty queer chuckle
From what I've heard New Vegas is also one of the games with special meaning in the trans community. Celeste is another (slightly more obvious) one.
For anyone considering playing or replaying New Vegas, I cannot reccomend the Viva New Vegas modlist enough.
It's unfortunately not just some "one click setup". There is a Wabbajack installer, but there are some small steps you still need to do manually too.
That said, it is by far the best and most comprehensive "vanilla plus" modpack I have ever used. I'm a modding addict; I don't say that lightly. It doesn't change core game mechanics, story, or anything the makes New Vegas what it is.
It polishes what's there, upgrading visuals in a consistent manner that blends perfectly with the original content. It fixes countless longstanding bugs, performance issues, and crashes (only two crashes in ~40 hours on a setup that was modded even further past what the pack includes).
It polishes New Vegas to what it should have been on release (if Bethesda didn't force Obsidian to rush it out the door early), then brings it as close to the quality of a modern release as possible through modding.
If you want to replay Fallout 3, a lot of people prefer playing it in the New Vegas engine using the Tale of Two Wastelands mod. The version of Viva New Vegas that covers that and includes mods for the Fallout 3 content is "The Best of Times".
It appears to be up to the same quality as VNV standalone, but I haven't used it myself yet.
+1 for the Tale of Two Wastelands mention. Itβs the single greatest mod you can install, because it brings all of the quality of life improvements from New Vegas (like true iron sights) into FO3. Plus all the mods you install on FO:NV will also run on Tale of Two Wastelands, so you can actually get a decent playing experience.
I liked NV way more than FO3 because it felt like the same world as FO1 and 2, while 3 felt like an imposter wearing their skin.
It also is the most RPG-like of all the 3D fallout games. Obsidian actually knows how to make an RPG. And having a couple of the people who made FO1 and 2 was a big help.
I liked NV way more than FO3 because it felt like the same world as FO1 and 2, while 3 felt like an imposter wearing their skin.
100% this. What I said to a friend of mine was "Fallout 3 is not a bad game but it is not a Fallout" FNV was a real continuation of the franchise.
Funnily enough, Fallout 76 is also quite good, a little bit like a parody Fallout, using funny elements.
The only thing that I disliked about 76 when I finally did play it, was that even when you're by yourself the NPC enemies still rubberband like they were high pinging players, making it just super frustrating to do any kind of combat.
Wow that's an unpopular opinion for sure. You might get roasted for that one. What bugged you about it?
Not OP but New Vegas always felt like a total overhaul mod for Fallout 3. Same assets, different location, different story, crashes a lot.
Basically was, Bethesda crippled Obsidian with a ridiculous target to release in so they had little to no time to work on new assets etc.
New Vegas is a great game despite its original flaws that in the years since, modders have completely fixed.
Honestly, I'm ok with it it. It created a game more focused on story.
For myself, I don't hate it, I just don't seem to get it like everyone else. I just leveled myself up and gave some weapons after a while because I found the combat unengaging and wanted to finish the story. I'm interested in trying out that mod pack someone else mentioned. Maybe the experience will be quite different.
I don't know what I've beaten more times, New Vegas or my meat. Either way that game stays installed on my PC, Steam Deck, Xboxes, everything. I ain't no fink, dig?
Honestly it's just amazing Obsidian was able to make that game's story and assets in 18 months with Bethesda looming over their necks.
no need to make up stories about the development, pretty much every obsidian dev cherished the opportunity to work on that engine and create a game
oh and obsidian themselves set the timeline and then mismanaged their time (like they usually do, see kotor 2)
I'll join in the controversy. New Vegas is fine, great game, way overhyped. It rolled straight from the initial sentiments (Fallout fan boys loved it on release and called it "the real fallout 3" and you can imagine the rest), into generous comparisons to every new game ("is Game X the next New Vegas?!") and straight into wistful nostalgia.
I liked Fallout 3 better. It's more goofy fun! I like exploring the DC ruins more than Yet Another Mad Max Apocolypse Desert. I liked the story line and (yes, the ending was silly and forced) but i liked how the plot wrapped up! I had finished all the side quests I wanted, it felt like a fitting end, a solid wrap up to a difficult life, where I'd made amends for the sins of the father and made a better wasteland.
I mean, then the BoS DLC replaced it with a non-ending so you could have Endless Adventure β’οΈ and I think that really set the tone for Bethesda's downfall. There's no one moment, but that DLC was a big sign that the philosophy of games internally was shifting. Fallout 4 was also enjoyable but to me went too far away from the RPG hybrid balance that FO3 had, imho, gotten perfect. The most vocal people wanted more RPG hence the cultish love for NV, but it seems the mainstream wanted more Action and hence the "tuh-ripple Ayyye" treatment of FO4 and subsequent games.
I never played Fallout New Vegas.
It's sitting unused in my Steam library.
Is it actually any good?
There is a hard "yes/no" answer to this.
It looks like a first person shooter, so you might expect it to play like a fun FPS game. Is it fun in that way? No, not really. Mods can fix this a bit, but it will never be Doom 2016.
It is published by Bethesda, so you might expect it to have fun exploration like Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim. Is it fun in that way? Kinda, but it's a bit theme-parky and the explorable world is less "open" than other Bethesda offerings. What you find is always fun, but the "getting there" part is only so-so. (Kinda the opposite of other Bethesda games this way)
So why is it still talked about so much and called a masterpiece then you might be asking? Well, in the spirit of the great CRPGs, the narrative agency is insanely good. Where many RPGs give you the illusions of choice, New Vegas is the ultimate "choose your own adventure".
While there is no "wrong way" to play a game, if you want to see why people love New Vegas, try to stop thinking about RPGs from the BioWare "paragon/renegade" dichotomy, and instead try to really consider, "what outcome do I want to happen", and New Vegas will surprise the shit out of you with how much agency they really give the player. In this way, it is one of the GOATs. (And I'm not talking about the exam)
if you like fallout then yeah its good
if you dont like fallout or open worlds with a lot of talking to people then youll probably be bored out of your mind
It's the last good fallout game, how can we move on if things after it are subpar?
I have well over 5k hours in fnv split between Xbox 360 and PC. I'm terrified there's never going to be a game like it again with the way everything is becoming a live service.
Anyone who wants to play NV again/for the first time, check out Viva New Vegas, a modguide that makes the game actually playable and performant. There's now a Wabbajack version, meaning you can get it perfectly modded with very little user input.
I also recommend "Just Assorted Mods" if you want some modern QoL changes (sprinting, hit markers, weapon wheel, loot quickmenu, etc)
Meh. Games are mature now. Classics are classics. Just like movies.
Also, funny meme.