Here’s hoping it matures enough for desktop use by the time my Win10 desktop is EOL.
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My man, have you heard of Bazzite?
I hate to go against the flow here, but I absolutely do not recommend Bazzite as a desktop OS. Surely as a living room or handheld PC thing, but not your main OS.
Immutable distros create a lot of pain when you need a package outside of the also problematic Flatpak world, and whilst there are ways to install them on Bazzite, regular users with no Linux knowledge would scream.
Yes but people seem to really want a SteamOS like experience on their desktop. Thats what Bazzite provides.
I dont think steamOS is a good desktop experience but if that makes people feel safe enough to try linux then I think Bazzite does a 100x better job than SteamOS.
If they want an actual desktop that can game and do everyything then they should try Fedora with KDE.
For a desktop PC I'm trying Endeavour OS. Feels quite good.
Endeavour is great as well. I've heard nothing but good things about it.
Linux Mint hides and automates a little too much for my liking. Arch should be within my skill lvl but most days I don't want to be tuning the suspension while the vehicle is moving. Endeavour seem the right cup of tea for someone who has grown up using DOS and terminals and still retains the ability to touch type at 50wpm.
But SteamOS is also immutable 🤔
I'm a daily driver of Bazzite and Bluefin. I felt this way initially but it's been generally painless. I typically check flatpak -> app image -> homebrew -> distrobox when I need something. If that fails, I use rpm-ostree and reboot.
I work in development/devops/infosec by trade and to date there hasn't been a single package or program that I needed that I couldn't get running with minimal fuss. I've even run a couple of MDM packages that my work requires.
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If they went through this, they wouldn't.
I've also been able to find 99% of what I need through discover.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/installing-from-source/
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Or literally any other distro.
Pop is probably much easier to be up and running vs. Bazzite.
What's keeping you from using a distro that's already designed for desktop use?
It's just arch isn't it?
No, it's based on arch. There's a bunch of polish on top of it that makes it more stable and such
I don't speak polish though so that makes it difficult and scary.
You don't have to talk to them, they just hold the thing together. Very strong men
Juyzt sprynkle some 'y's and 'z's whyle talking wyth them.
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I didn't think it's just Arch , though. IIRC it's also immutable.
Yeah I don't see any need for desktop use, except for making a Steam console under your TV.
You can use Steam with Proton on whatever distro you want.
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I really want to switch my main desktop to Linux, but use it for remote work too, so I have MS Teams… is there a way to reliably virtualize it?
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I'm still holding onto the dream that we'll get SteamOS onto something small enough to fit in my pocket and run all my favorite 2D indie games. First manufacturer to do it gets all my money.
I bought a Miyoo Mini Plus a while back, purely an impulse buy for how cheap it was on sale, and ended up putting far more time into it than I ever did with my deck. This is the cozy form factor I need.
I'ma be real: It fucking kills me that Steam on Android has been mostly used for 2FA and the idea of it being an alternate game store for Android somehow just... doesn't exist?
Especially, out of all companies to take the fight about that kind of stuff to Apple and Google, Valve has the punching power, and they've literally already had Epic forge a path for them in this regard.
Why is my Android copy of Balatro unable to use the same cloud save system as Steam? Why am I stuck in Google's fucking lame gaming ecosystem? It just makes me heave and sigh because I'd way rather be purchasing games for Android via Steam on the Steam Android app. It just feels like such a missed opportunity.
A decade or more ago, I thought surely that was what the app was going to do, considering Humble would package Steam + Android keys in the same purchase back then.
A Steam phone with Steam Mobile OS. If there's anyone that can pull a Linux phone is them.
I wish, but it feels like Valve is still mostly trying to support x86/x64 type devices and ARM/RISC-V doesn't seem on the roadmap as much.
I remember them investing into x86 emulation. I think the rumors suggested that it's for Deckard, their next VR headset. If that is true it should be a short jump from there to phones.
Maybe in 10 years after SteamOS has conquered this space, that could be the next target to expand into...
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I wonder if Valve plans to release an Arm version of SteamOS. They'd have to for it to ever show up on a device like the Miyoo Mini Plus, which uses an Arm based CPU, instead of the x86 based CPU in the Steam Deck, and other Windows handhelds.
Right now I think the OS of choice for Arm based devices is Android, which works well enough, but I don't think very many PC games are ported to Android.
Dude off the top of my head Balatro (won many Game of the Year awards), Vampire Survivors, Terraria, and Minecraft all have Android ports.
I wonder if Valve plans to release an Arm version of SteamOS
The problem here is you'd be relying on a translation layer similar to Proton, but would probably have to be built off of something like Box64 for it to work. There just may not be enough horsepower on these small devices for that to do well.
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Running x64 Windows games on x64 Linux with Proton is way easier than running x64 binaries on arm. That said, Apple have managed it so maybe one day!
I would kill for something like the Miyoo Mini in a GBA form factor.
I get that there's a lot of nostalgia for the Gameboy / Gameboy color layout but the GBA/SD layout is definitely more ergonomically friendly.
I have an rg35xx h (just a generic square thing) and I'm pretty happy with it. I play mostly GBA and some PSP games on it
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The miyoo flip is a GBA SP form factor and it’s more powerful. It can run n64 and Dreamcast games
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The GPD WIN 2 fits perfectly in a pocket, I hope the new one keeps those dimensions since it's already confirmed that it will be Steam OS compatible.
You could look at this: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-4-2025-amd-apu-handheld-console
I have one of their older products and I’m happy with it. I’m considering this one.
Comes with Windows 11 but says it supports SteamOS. Should certainly run at least older games well. They say it’s 220x92x28 mm (7.87x3.62x1.1 in) which is a bit chonky for something I’d put it my pocket but not unmanageable.
The flip has some great ports apparently. Balatro being one of them. I'm hoping for the same as you. I want a steam Gameboy like.
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