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[–] donuts@lemmy.world 118 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's not review bombing, that's just leaving a negative review because the experience has turned negative.

They should direct their complaints at MS if that's what broke their game, but I don't expect the average Assassin's Creed player to understand the difference.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends. Microsoft might be to blame indeed but I've seen several people saying Ubisoft has a habit of using undocumented non-public API.

If they're not supposed to use it to begin with, it's their fault when it doesn't work anymore. That would certainly explain why it happens to almost nothing but Snowdrop powered games.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe there are hairs to split about blame.

But the review tells you if a game is worth buying, and if it doesn't work - it's not worth buying. Doesn't matter who is responsible. The negative reviews are valid.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 3 points 10 months ago

Can't disagree with that.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (8 children)

And this is the ONLY game that this updated killed? If thats the case, sounds like a game problem to me.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, I bet you it was the DRM kit that runswith the game executable. Ubisoft are being dipshits as usual.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

That's still a "game" problem.

[–] mormund@feddit.org 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it's quite a few Ubisoft games that are affected. So kinda yes and no. But for me it broke Firefox and I had to roll back, so that update in general is just an awful pile of garbage

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

Knowing Microsoft, breaking Firefox was probably intentional

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Seems to be other games too

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-11-24h2-update-break-ubisoft-games/d0917345-7f2a-4972-8d5b-99d2f9be1b28

https://www.techspot.com/news/105709-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ubisoft-games-fix.html

On another note being subbed to similar communities across fediverse kind of makes articles that popped up a day ago and sometimes longer show up again give me feelings of deja vu.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

both articles seem to suggest that this is only (or primarily) affecting ubisoft games, which suggests that ubisoft might share some of the blame here. microsoft is very dumb for pushing out an update that breaks a ton of games, especially given how much they claim to love backwards compatibility. but ubisoft is also dumb if they are relying on undocumented APIs, as some of the other comments suggest they might be. microsoft already struggles to keep their documented APIs stable, so i can only imagine what happens with the undocumented APIs

[–] Zulasas@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Resident Evil 4 Remake also doesn't start with 24H2, there's is a workaround to make it work though. Need to delete the CrashReporter.exe in the game folder.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

ironic that the crash reporter makes the game crash on launch

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Kinda random but it also broke Canon scan software

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

I know from personal experience it broke Star Wars Outlaws. Appears to have broken any Ubisoft games using that same engine.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 4 points 10 months ago

I recall hearing about another game that was killed by 24H2, but I can't remember which one off the top of my head.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Apparently Path of Exile 2 has very serious performance issues on Windows 11 24H2, to the point of being unplayable.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 39 points 10 months ago (7 children)

So, ironically, all games effected by this would run better on Linux through WINE with Proton. Funny how the tables have turned. Linux is absolutely the best platform for gaming now, not Windows.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Linux is absolutely the best platform for gaming now, not Windows.

While I agree on net, I don't think most people would by the simple fact that many of the most popular MP games simply don't work on Linux because they have Windows-only anti-cheat. That's not an OS problem since the devs could in many cases easily support it, but it is a problem that needs to be considered when discussing Linux for gaming.

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

So did Elden Ring when that launched. Initially it had terrible stuttering on DX12 but once Proton translated DX12 into Vulkan on Linux the stuttering was gone.

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know this is being played out like Ubisoft is getting unfair treatment here, but I'm going to be very unsurprised when the underlying cause is some bullshit DRM or kernel level bullshit that should never have been bundled with something as frivolous as a videogame

[–] Paradoxvoid@aussie.zone 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Definitely wouldn't be surprised - MS have been making noises about reducing the level of access non-core Windows services get after the cloudstrike fiasco, and given MS's patch stability lately, I would also not be surprised if something leaked out early.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

MS working hard to acquire Ubisoft at bargain prices.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 19 points 10 months ago (17 children)

Don't worry Ubisoft is also working hard to become a bargain to buy.

They are still on their obsession of NFT games that's how disconnected they are from their playerbase.

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[–] UnbrokenTaco@lemm.ee 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This update also stops Windows VR headsets (WMR) from working. They decided to remove the drivers from this windows version onwards (which is the only way to get them), so it turns them into $600 paper weights.

[–] do_not_pm_me@thelemmy.club 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Glad I never picked one of those up and opted for the quest 3.

PC VR always felt janky to me anyway.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

SteamVR really does all the heavy lifting for PCVR, even for Quest headsets since they relaunched Steam Link.

[–] do_not_pm_me@thelemmy.club 2 points 10 months ago

Yes I’ve used PC VR with my quest, but it’s not as nice as just putting the headset on and jumping into a standalone experience.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago

That sucks.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Windows is better because it works with even several decade old programs"

So does Linux assuming its compiled statically.

[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

In many cases, Wine on Linux is better for running decades-old Windows software than Windows 10 or 11.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

This is why I returned Star Wars Outlaws on Steam. I couldn't even get the game to start. Ubisoft has known about this issue for months now and continues to allow their PC games to be sold in an unplayable state. This is exactly the kind of situation class action lawsuits should be used in, too bad consumer protections are nominal at best in the US.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 10 months ago

If only a multibillion dollar gaming company with 20,000 employees could afford to signing to the MSDN and evaluate prereleases.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think Microsoft does nearly enough testing before releasing updates.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's because they'd rather have users test it than pay for qa

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They build and release slop with their current workforce.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

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