Broken clock?

I'm wondering if we're in the process of seeing the parties flip tbh. It seems like D's are becoming more conservative and R's are now trying to make systemic changes. Granted it's not a perfect flip and R-progressiveness is more like going backwards at times (abortion) but things feel weird now.

• D: Trying to maintain (aka conserve) the status quo. Haven't been truly progressive for decades. Doesn't seem to have learned anything from losing in 2024.
• R: Got suddenly forced into populism by Trump's surprise win and staying power. Their status quo rich politicians are all being forced out. "Anti-Elites" and big chaotic changes are now their calling cards.

If R's realize that voters will strongly support them for attacking the rich, it might happen imo.

Exept Musk I assume. Or Trump. Or any other fascist fuck.

This is a 1932-type realignment, if we do this right

Guys, he's not talking about the re-alignment in America in 1932...

This reminds me of a manifesto I was reading for a proposed proletarian-run state. Comes from early 1900s, before the world went to shit because of the rise of fadcism. Particularly a few key points from their 25-point plan stood out to me:

11. Abolition of unearned incomes [passive income, in today's terms]. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice of life and property that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment due to a war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. Therefore, we demand ruthless confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand nationalization of all businesses which have been up to the present formed into companies (trusts).

14. We demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of land rent and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

[...]

20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious citizen to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. [...] We demand the education at the expense of the state of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

21. The state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, [...]

Oops, wait, that's excerpted from The National Socialist Program

Yeah, it turns out Nazis have always been willing to use socialist rhetoric to appeal to the working class. They know what they're doing, but it's only a matter of time before what's determined to be for "the good of the workers" is coincidentally aligned with genocide and war and the greed of the ruling class..

TL;DR Nazis were always on board with taxing the rich... Until they didn't have any more competition, at which point it's back to oligarchy (and genocide, lots and lots of genocide).

Bannon is an anger salesmen. Anger salesmen don't sell you somene else's anger, though -- they can't. Instead, they package up your own anger, and sell it back to you.

Bannon sees the the reaction people are habing to CEOs right now, slapping a big ol' bow on it, and selling it back to people.

Oh snap the broken clock was right for once.

You can increase the taxes. The hard part is making them pay it

"This is a 1932-type realignment, if we do this right,” Bannon explained. “Look at the demographics that got us here – black, Hispanic, white, working class, all of it. If we deliver for these people, and I mean deliver in a big way economically, then this is a coalition that could last for 50 years.”

He added that loyalty to “crony capitalism” and “tax breaks for the corporations” could “squander” a unique moment in history.

Making the economy better is how Hitler got into power too. The irony in saying this could be a 1932 style realignment is not lost on me. Trump has also said he wants to go after his political opponents and put them in prison. Also something Hitler did.

I've been hate listening to his podcast. A lot of what he says would be considered pretty eft leaning. But then a lot of it is conspiracy minded. Honestly Lauren to his podcast, it's pretty unbearable, but he hates the elites as much as anyone here. It probably goes some way to understanding why trump won

He's just talking nonsense though. There is zero chance Trump will tax the billionaires overall. They paid him off, they own him.

But possibly of he's feeling particularly pesky, he might target people he doesn't like and target only them and pretend he did something meritorious.

I’ll tell you wants going on. He is saying the quiet part out loud.

He is admitting that conservatives have always known what would make the country better but refused to admit it, instead have always played “dumb” by claiming their free market and deregulation approach is what they honestly believe is best for the country.

I might be reading too much into it but imo this shows that decades of democrats playing fair and true to the process is why we got here. Because selfish people realized that they can take advantage of the benefit of the doubt and just ruin the government while pretending they don’t know any better.

Pretty evil, more than I actually expected from him tbh.

Lmao it's like when the old white men become senile and slide to the right except Bannon is morally inverted.

https://clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606/

First time I agree with Steve Bannon on anything, ever.

Rule of Acquisition #76: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.

i love that shiteating grin on his face underneath this headline

And hell just froze over.

What the fuck is going on?

edit: this question was not literal

"four months in prison and he's already starting to sound like a god damn liberal. we should ban prisons before more people are indoctrinated by the left."

Sounds promising, except the “wealthy” he’s considering are probably in the 80k-250k bracket lol

Unless they’re targeting multimillionaires+, it’s not gonna work. The other half of this is that there needs to be an open and transparent process for keeping tracking of how taxes are spent

Edit but since it’s a bunch of kleptocrats in govt now, what to think of that? I guess rich progressives/dems/libs better make sure they’re using the same loop holes to conserve wealth that the conservatives will, otherwise it’s just playing a game rigged to kill you.