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Summary

Tesla’s European market share is declining sharply, with EU registrations dropping 40.9% in November 2024 compared to last year, and year-to-date registrations down 15.2%.

Including the UK and EFTA, Tesla’s registrations fell 13.7% this year.

The drop stems from reduced government EV incentives and growing dissatisfaction with CEO Elon Musk.

Despite Tesla’s decline, overall EV registrations in Europe have remained stable as competing automakers gain ground. Tesla remains the largest EV producer in Europe but faces growing pressure from rivals capitalizing on its waning dominance.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Good and I did not consider a Tesla when purchasing our first EV. We will continue to shop from the Tesla's competition until "Leon" rockets off to Mars.

[-] Redfugee@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago

the biggest player in the electric vehicle game is having a rough year.

You couldn't tell by looking at the stock price.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 8 hours ago

because tesla is basically just a pump and dump now considering the board are just musk stooges who greenlight anything he asks and investors are just musk cultists.

[-] djsp@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I would characterize Tesla stock not as a pump & dump scheme anymore, but as a bet on Musk's position to extract concessions from his political connections. He has got his way already with Trump planning to end EV subsidies that mostly benefited Tesla's competitors, although Trump intended to do so anyway, and he may yet push against regulation that would threaten Tesla's market position in the US, like federal charging standards. He may also get Trump to impose harsher tariffs on Chinese electrical vehicles than he otherwise would, although such tariffs enjoy bipartisan support.

[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

Were stooges stooges before the Three Stooges? Or was it the Stooges that defined stooges as stooges?

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Whoa. So, I was bored and looked into the etymology of this, and it's way harder to answer than I'd have thought.


The etymology of the word "stooge" is unknown, but it was first used in 1913 as a noun. The earliest known use of the verb "stooge" was in 1939, in the writing of detective novelist Raymond Chandler.


In its first known use in 1913, the word was defined as "stage assistant, actor who assists a comedian." So, while it looks like it predates the Stooges by a decade, they really redefined the word as we know it now.

[-] nexusband@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago

As much as I'd like to, I don't try starlink for the exact same reason. (Although Starlink has other reasons why I'm not going to give them any money)

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I had to use it for in flight wifi on Hawaiian. I needed to work, and that's the only wifi on Hawaiian. It worked fine, but I was annoyed that indirectly I was helping Musk. I would have happily paid 8 bucks even for worse internet. Thankfully I didn't have to give them any information to use it.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

overall EV registrations in Europe have remained stable as competing automakers gain ground.

Which competing car manufacturers are they so I can invest?

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Probably Kia and Hyundai

[-] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

🤷 for some reason hybrids did really well in Europe this year. Probably because some countries have really shit charging infrastructure but people still want to emit less carbon.

The hybrids are bad though unless you live in a house and charge them at home. They don't have the hundreds of kW charging potential and if you charge them at work you often have to go move them during the day because you aren't allowed to leave them in the spot with the charger all day. Contrast this with an all electric vehicle that you can charge 200 km in five minutes at a gas tank.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 50 points 18 hours ago

Reminder that the Tesla strike in Sweden is still ongoing.

[-] vodkasolution@feddit.it 90 points 1 day ago

No way I'm giving my money to that fascist, I don't care how good or bad his cars are

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Damn shame too, cause the second gen Roadster is the car I've been dreaming of: hard top convertible, sporty, electric, faster than rabbits fucking. But I will never, ever own a Nazimobile.

I hope it at least inspires other automakers to bring back sporty convertibles. Until then I'll hang onto my 350Z Roadster forever. If that never happens, I guess I'll have to eventually convert the car to electric. I'm so sick and tired of every battery car being a god damn crossover. They're too big and corner like shit because of their size.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

There's going to be an electric Boxster in 2025.

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[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago

"His" cars are dogshit for the price. The only thing they have going for them is they are fast. Which makes them dangerous since people drive em fast and then cannot stop, since huge battery equals weight. The build quality is dog, the rear door will happily close on your fingers, and sometimes it'll just brick itself because F you.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

And it'll watch, listen, and report on you the entire time!

I don't see how people fall for these grocery-store smartphone appliances on wheels, but their predictable, dangerously entitled driving patterns tend to check out.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago

European view: I always thought I'd love a Tesla when I make the move to electric.

Would never, ever buy one now and it's purely because of mister half a trillion election purchasing oligarch.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 10 points 7 hours ago

100% agree. I used to dream of owning a Tesla, I used to love Elon Musk. But now that I found out who he really is... meh, I'll never ever buy a Tesla.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

My parents got one somewhat recently (😒) and I have to say, features are also a negative point. Model Y door override is so inaccessible it might just as well not exist. No haptic control for most things except indicators as they are required by law.

Other than that it's a car like any other, so no reason to support Tesla specifically.

I got myself an i3 2017 a few months back and while you can tell it's a first gen EV and only basic non-BMW features (no Android Auto, only basic BT) I much prefer the i3. No random braking on the road, no crazy lane corrections. Not as powerful as the Tesla, but I drive in Eco, anyway.

I love Tesla for what they did for the EV market, but I'll happily attribute that to the original founders and engineers. M*sk was only PR; if the car was half as tech geeky they'd still be where they are today.

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

RIP Tesla. I will never buy one ever again and now champion against them amongst friends & family. Good riddance.

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[-] Rookeh@startrek.website 28 points 1 day ago

I have a Model 3 at the moment. I've had it for almost 5 years and it's generally been great - cheap to run, quiet and comfortable on longer trips but still fun to drive on back roads.

Recently it had its first major breakdown, and although Tesla service did manage to take care of it, it's got me browsing for new EVs - but now, buying a Tesla is not the foregone conclusion it once might have been.

First, they have been making some truly stupid design choices in their latest facelifts (deleting the indicator stalks and gear selector).

Second, their CEO has now gone completely mask-off fascist.

Third - after a few years for the competition to catch up, we now have genuine alternatives from other marques which are just as good if not better EVs than Tesla's offerings.

I think my next car will likely be a Polestar 2.

[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 190 points 1 day ago

I used to be really keen on Teslas but a combination of Elon and stories of poor quality and after sales support have killed the brand for me.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Poor build quality was mostly ramping up to mass production. They mostly got that under control after the first couple years. At least for me, no longer an issue.

I don’t know about support - I no longer read complaints so that probably A good sign, they no longer have the excuse of rapidly growing sales taking all the parts, and they did put money into support starting a couple years ago.

The ceo on the other hand … you really can’t fix that

[-] Dankob@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

The new model 3s are improved upon also in quality I heard and soundproof

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[-] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 128 points 1 day ago

Polestar sells something for a similar price and better quality, and without awkward associations with a billionaire nazi.

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