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[-] Roopappy@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

I often see a car in a crowded parking lot that is too wide or too long to fit in a parking spot, and I have to wonder if the person driving that vehicle is a complete idiot or a complete asshole.

How stupid are you that you chose a daily driver that doesn't work? That you take up so much space that everyone else needs to actively avoid you and curse you because you are so bad at making choices?

Do you regret your choice? Do you constantly think "Fuck everyone else around me, I do what I want.", or do you legitimately not notice how everyone else hates you?

[-] JordanZ@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

There is a guy at my office building that routinely parks his fucking VW Golf in 4 spaces under the covered parking. Dude it’s not even that nice of a car. Assholes exist regardless of what they drive.

Lived at an apartment complex that had external garages and they had two parking spaces, two single garages, and two parking spaces in these perpendicular to the road pull offs. BMW loved to park diagonal across the two space sections. Too bad for him that apartment had a manager that must have found so much joy in towing cars. They were relentless with their parking enforcement. Pretty sure that guy got towed 3-4 times before he got the hint. Parking was always a pain at that complex…

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I once saw an asshole who managed to park a compact car on 4 Spaces, one being a handicapped spot. I took a picture, but cant find it.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago

That's a bad example because it's a Golf.

Seriously though, pretty much every time I see one, it's either doing something dangerous and/or obnoxious, or is about to do it in the next 5 minutes. I can also count on one hand the amount of times I've seen one respecting the speed limit, and they're a pretty common car here.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Do you regret your choice? Do you constantly think “Fuck everyone else around me, I do what I want.”, or do you legitimately not notice how everyone else hates you?

It could easily be all of those things. Regret turns to coping poorly through projection^1^, followed by just ignoring the problem.

Re: idiots and assholes. The Venn diagram for those groups have a rather large intersection.


1. Clinically known as "acting like an asshole". In this case, it's the decision that it's everyone else who is encroaching on their space, while driving a vehicle that is slightly smaller than a shuttle bus.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

That requires introspection. Instead they say things like “the idiot that built this parking lot made the spaces too small.”

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Lol I don't understand why people want wide cars. There are so many instances where having a narrow car saved me from some dinguses crossing the center line

[-] bcgm3@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

You're stuck in the "defensive driving" mindset -- You gotta go offensive to keep safe. The Chevy Stretch offers significantly greater total mass than even large trucks, and a lower center of gravity. Now you'll be the one crossing the center line, striking fear into the hearts of the sensible!

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

All things considered, stability and six full seats? Look up Fiat Multipla.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Some people have an exaggerated and/or completely broken sense of personal space, and how that keeps them "safe".

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Well in lots of the usa we only have wide ass roads.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah that's not true at all. Someone hasn't driven on the backroads near me.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Canyonaro is far superior

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

This has been plagerized directly from a Tex Avery cartoon from the 1950s...

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Thats how we view American cars, especially pickups that nobody needs and SUVs that have never seen a path that needed 4WD here in Europe.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Pickups, SUVs, and Vans in America are getting unreasonably large because of poorly-written environmental regulation.

In the mid-2000s, automakers were classifying everything as a "truck" to skirt CAFE (fuel economy) standards. The tilling point was the PT Cruiser being regulated as a truck. So, starting in 2012, CAFE standards started to be based on vehicle footprint.

Ever notice how all the little trucks like the S-10, Dakota, and the old-style Ranger all had 2011-ish as their last year model?

Suddenly, small trucks became effectively illegal, and as fuel economy standards get tougher every few years, the automakers have learned it's easier to just make the footprint bigger than it is to make the fuel economy better. They've since re-released the Ranger, but now it's bigger than the F-150 used to be.

And now it's hit the vans. CAFE outran the small cargo van footprints, so the Nissan NV200, Ford Transit Connect, and RAM Promaster City have all been discontinued in the last 2-3 years because they can't make cargo-hauling vehicles that size any longer.

New York City's Taxi Fleet changed to NV200s a few years back to improve accessibility, and now they can't buy replacement vehicles without either dropping the accessibility and going small or moving to fuck-you-sized vehicles.

The one neat thing though is the Ford Maverick. It's a small 4-seat truck with a half-size bed that comes standard as a hybrid (trafitional ICE is an "upgrade" so it meets CAFE) for like 25 grand. The only real problem is buying one since they only made like 4 of them.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 6 days ago
[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 67 points 1 week ago

Pff, car users dont need society to get around, everyone knows road and bridge and fuel infrastructure are natural parts of the word that are just there on their own already! /s

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

I don't think anyone doubts how much time, money, and effort are put into road infrastructure. In fact, I think about it a lot when driving.

[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 55 points 1 week ago

Simpsons did it. Canyon Aarow

[-] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 40 points 1 week ago

12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride, Canyonero!

[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Smells like a steak and seats 35!

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 27 points 1 week ago

Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 15 points 1 week ago
[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Fixed url: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA

What some folks may not know is that at around the same time, Ford had problems with tires imploding on SUVs. While not called out in the Canyonero spoof, I always thought it captured the public vibe about big trucks at the time in light of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestone_and_Ford_tire_controversy

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

Whoops, you can see where I tried to remove the m. from the youtube URL and messed up!

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[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 53 points 1 week ago

I can tell this is a old meme because $119k is "a lot". Lol

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I passed a Lamborghini SUV on the road the other day. I checked and it retails for about $250,000. Motherfucker really dropped a quarter of a million dollars for a RAV4-looking vehicle to haul the kids to soccer in.

EDIT: Lamborghini Urus

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago

American culture in general:

"Remember: There is no society - only YOU and the freedom to do whatever you want!"

.... the chef's kiss was in parking your monstrosity next to a Big Sad Box .... a beautiful summary of the general North American society we've created. Millions of years of evolution to get to the point of selfish ignorantly following a life style to park next to a big sad box and buy an overpriced couch you can't afford made by Vietnamese children.

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Artist nailed it outlining people's obsession with personal freedoms versus society's rights as a whole.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 17 points 1 week ago

I hate this about newer car models. Many are unnecessarily wide. Lanes don't get wider though.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 28 points 1 week ago

It is "necessary" for them to be that wide.

CAFE standards are based on "footprint" which is basically the rectangle of the tire contact patches. If you're a car manufacturer who can't meet the NHTSA's MPG requirements for the size of car you produce, you can increase the size of your cars, so they fit in a larger class that requires less of an MPG improvement.

The most effective way to increase the footprint is to widen a narrow car, increasing its footprint toward square.

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[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago

In all honesty, the wideness of modern cars may actually be their downfall. I live in a suburban area (Not US, but that doesn't matter it's become everyone's problem.) and the roads were designed for cars to be parked on either side and two, narrow lanes in the middle where people could, slowly, get past each other, with a certain amount of tolerance (i.e. space).

Then came an EPA ruling in the states (late 90's I think) and trucks were immune to sensible laws and all the car companies made trucks that were immune to being too wide (among other things). They became objects of desire. Cars followed, because everyone wants a thick phallus I guess, or maybe needs to see the road when there's a fat car next to them, or one with tinted windows, and I'm nowhere near to a legal solution in a global economy.

Practical upshot, local roads are only one lane wide because of fat cars parked on either side with no regard to practicality, add endless renovation because property development is the one true way to richness /s, even though rich people already own the good land, and control their local environment.

TLDR, fat cars break suburban roads.

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