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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago

"Sen. John Fetterman is one of those who has loudly insisted that the “public execution of an innocent man and father of two is indefensible.” We are expected to ignore the fact that for 14 months straight before Thompson’s killing, Israeli forces have publicly executed thousands of innocent men, women, and children in Gaza with the enthusiastic support of US politicians like Fetterman."

Normally I'm not one to dig into these things, but I seriously think fetterman died and the dude we hear from now is a stand in. Just such a 180... I remember when he was first gaining national prominence, had some interview in front of a Wawa off the freeway - when I saw THAT guy, I donated to his campaign and called my wife in to say, "listen to this for a second, I think this guy could be the president one day". That guy has ZERO DNA in common with the "Fetterman" we see and hear from today. It wasn't a stroke, or if it was, it was fatal.

[-] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 37 points 6 days ago

Our society ties worth to wealth.

To a capitalist, If you're homeless, you have less moral value than someone who exploited millions of people's need for healthcare for his own gain.

And there are a lot of capitalists.

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[-] kava@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

I think there are two primary reasons for the difference in treatment of these two killings

  1. The killing of the CEO was meant to be a message to the country. It's a different scale. Because something like this is such a spectacle, it gets national attention and the local and federal authorities are forced to deal with it quickly- otherwise they lose face.

  2. Ultimately the power structure cannot tolerate these types of rebellions. It's like a slave talking back to the master. You allow it once and you open the door for it to happen again. You have to try and shut it down as quickly as possible.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 11 points 6 days ago

This is not a juxtaposition at all. Terrible ethics aside, the CEO operated more or less totally in compliance with USA law. Being a fucking scumbag is not illegal -- indeed, our country sadly runs on this principle.

The fellow in the subway was acting to a DIRECT threat, and it's pretty easy to draw a line from that guy flipping out to someone being threatened/hurt/killed in the subway. He was already culpable of disorderly conduct or worse, and it's pretty clear that it wasn't Penny's intent to fatally injure him.

The juxtaposition some people feel is because the CEO is acting against their moral framework, but he's operating in a legal framework. This is why our country is fucking sick, but it is is what it is at this point.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 days ago

but he's operating in a legal framework.

That defence is flimsy AF .

The US did a whole thing in Germany saying following the law was a bullshit excuse , they've literally set the precedent for assholes following the law being killed when they're guilty of mass murder.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 6 points 6 days ago

Since our courts care about case law and not about moral frameworks, I think you'll see that defense being used quite successfully.

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[-] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

It is what it is

And it's gonna stay that way, with that attitude

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Oh wow, disorderly conduct huh? Famously straight to the execution chamber that? We have a criminal charge for "oops I didn't mean to kill him". You don't get to attack someone and then just say oopsie daisy.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

but killing rich people is illegal!

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[-] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 9 points 6 days ago

I don't understand who is the guy on the right?

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