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[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 75 points 1 week ago

All American students are taught this anyway and have been for the past 80 years

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago

American students haven't been taught about the "Uyghur genocide". Now it'll be a core part of US history classes lmao

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

That hasn't stopped lib teachers from doing it anyways

[-] 51dz31@hexbear.net 55 points 1 week ago

In my country the school's history book cites Solzhenitsyn's estimate of 66 million dead in the gulag. We also had to learn by heart the theories of Arendt and Orwell.

All the books that we were required to read said that "Revolution bad, reform good" or "The world is literally worse after the revolution", it's a joke

[-] borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 1 week ago

No you don't understand, Solzhenitsyn is a totally legitimate source for information on the USSR!

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

According to Congress, Solzhenitsyn and Zenz are is infallible as Jesus. They granted the Victims of Communism foundation control over this required curriculum.

[-] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

It is amazing how the soviet archives being opened and completely disproving all this propaganda did literally nothing to stop them. There was essentially not a single propagandist who actually cared about the truth, kind of incredible.

[-] TheDrink@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not just the archives either. In the 80s there were people who believed that millions of political prisoners would be released by Gorbachev which obviously never happened because they didn't exist. It's kinda like people believing that there are still Vietnam War POWs after all this time.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

That the guy who said the German army could have liberated the Soviet Union from Communism but Hitler was stupid and did not use this weapon?

[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

We had to read the Gulag Archipelago in class in high school. Don't remember if it was in English or in World History.

[-] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Haha 66 million wtf. What an absolutely preposterous number. Not even remotely feasible to kill that many, even if big bad Stalin wanted to.

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 1 week ago

You know what? I'm gonna communism even harder

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lot of dems voted yea on it. I guess this is what obama meant by working with repubs and eschewing identity politics. Does he and his fellow dems know a decent amount of repubs call em communist or such all the ti.... Oh fuck it why do I ask questions like I don't already know these are irredeemable pieces of shit

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

The good news when we get thrown into camps is liberals will be in there with us after the GOP declares the Dems are a communist organization. We'll get to bully them in person, at the very least. Probably get to smack them, too.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

Nah, they'll be the armed kapos fucking us up in the camps in their attempt to look good to their fascist masters.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

Be smacking em upside the head with the "thats why your wife fucked jesse" energy

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this is inaccurate, it simply passed the US house. it now goes to the senate, then the president

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/5349/text/eh

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago

It'll pass on all levels lmao.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but you know it's going to pass the Senate and get signed in anyway

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Based on the roll call (official site, govtrack.us breakdown) in the House, it could easily happen.

But yeah, it couldn't have passed the Senate because the Senate doesn't even meet until this afternoon.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

wow kinda slick that this is all inline to peertube. is there a way to prevent leaking IPs in this embed?

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes. You can do this.

Or you can register and do the same in your account settings. 😉

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Does it help if we use a VPN and leave that turned on?

Just shares a fake IP and reduces server load, so win-win, right?

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago
[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Consider it done. fidel-salute

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

does that work when its embedded on hexbear?

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes. You can confirm it like this.

  1. Press F12 on a hexbear.net page in which the embedded video is playing.

  2. Go to the Storage tab.

  3. Expand Local Storage on the left side.

  4. Select 🌐 https://tankie.tube/.

If peertube-videojs-webtorrent_enabled is set to false then it's working.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago
[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Looks like the PeerTube embedding was added to Lemmy on the November 9th.

Fixing peertube and ordinary video embeds. by @dessalines in #2676

It must have been applied to Hexbear during the downtime last week.

I'm so happy! meow-bounce I've wanted this for a long time. Thank you, @dessalines@lemmy.ml! Care-Comrade

[-] BGDelirium@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

I grew up in California in a big suburb and then a big city. Communism wasn't even mentioned and I was a high-falutin smart boy who took AP US History and US Government Honors

Feel like these dummies are shooting themselves in the foot with the Barbara Streisand Effect.

"Never interrupt your enemies when they are making mistakes."

but I am pretty sure they are already taught that

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah, but now it's federally mandated for every school to teach it.

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

This bill does not federally mandate anything, its directing for materials be made available (still bad ofc)

[-] peppersky@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

public education in the capitalist west has never been anything else other than a means of indoctrination. that they feel the need to pass something like this now just means that they feel they are losing control over the narrative.

[-] Dirt_Possum@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

I want to agree with you, but I can't shake the feeling that's just cope. They never lost control over their narrative around eeevil communism. Just walk around and ask anyone on the street what communism even is. Look at how many even supposed radical leftists will still call anyone who knows a bit about history and geopolitics a "tankie." They are losing the narrative on things like "actually Israel is defending itself" when there's constant and endless videos of genocide happening in all its gory reality for anyone to see. It's good that at least that they can't completely control the narrative on, and it might be part of the reasoning behind this bill. But lying about the visible genocide in Gaza is a bit different than lying about history that can't be seen as videos on social media and lying about geopolitics that are more complicated than images of murdered children. We're in a new cold war that is only going to ramp up and this is the ideological conditioning they'll be installing in the young population to help ensure they'll be on board. As we know, propaganda works. You think it's frustrating trying to reason with libs right now about the Uyghur "genocide," the uphill battle of debunking those brainworms? Wait until that shit is basic curriculum and as common knowledge as "Stalin was a murderous dictator" is now.

public education in the capitalist west has never been anything else other than a means of indoctrination.

This is true, but that doesn't mean it can't get worse or that it can't get modernized.

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Kids don't learn anything in American schools anyway. Most are just a place to drop your kids off while parents go to work.

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

This bill sucks but it’s not correct to say “all students must be taught communism is evil”. The federal government can’t mandate that anything is taught or not taught, that’s 100% at the state and local level. For better or worse that’s how education works in the US. If they really want something the feds could threat to withhold funding unless X is taught but that is not in this bill. This bill directs that materials be made available (made by the Victims of Communism Memorial Fund) that talk about “the evil of communism” but nothing on the school level is mandated.

Of course it’s a bad bill but we also shouldn’t exaggerate what’s in it.

[-] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

flattened-bernie Healthcare pls

the-democrat the-republican Communism is evil

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

118th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 5349

AN ACT To develop and disseminate a civic education curriculum and oral history resources regarding certain political ideologies, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.

This Act may be cited as the “Crucial Communism Teaching Act”.

SEC. 2. Purposes.

The purposes of this Act are the following:

(1) To help families, civic institutions, local communities, local educational agencies, high schools, and State educational agencies to prepare high school students to be civically responsible and knowledgeable adults.

(2) To ensure that high school students in the United States—

(A) learn that communism has led to the deaths of over 100,000,000 victims worldwide;

(B) understand the dangers of communism and similar political ideologies; and

(C) understand that 1,500,000,000 people still suffer under communism.

SEC. 3. Development and dissemination of civic education curriculum and oral history resources.

The independent entity created under section 905(b)(1)(B) of the FRIENDSHIP Act (40 U.S.C. 8903 note; 107 Stat. 2331 note), also known as the “Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation”, shall—

(1) develop a civic education curriculum for high school students that—

(A) includes a comparative discussion of certain political ideologies, including communism and totalitarianism, that conflict with the principles of freedom and democracy that are essential to the founding of the United States;

(B) is updated periodically to ensure the curriculum includes both past and present communist and totalitarian regimes, with a focus on—

(i) ongoing human rights abuses by such regimes, such as the treatment of Uyghurs in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR) by the People’s Republic of China; and

(ii) aggression by such regimes against democratic nations and democracy, such as actions taken by the People’s Republic of China to deter pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong and the increasingly aggressive posture by the People’s Republic of China toward Taiwan, a democratic friend of the United States.

(C) is accurate, relevant, and accessible, so as to promote the understanding of such political ideologies; and

(D) is compatible with a variety of courses, including social studies, government, history, and economics classes;

(2) develop oral history resources that may be used alongside the curriculum described in paragraph (1) and that include personal stories, titled “Portraits in Patriotism”, from diverse individuals who—

(A) demonstrate civic-minded qualities;

(B) are victims of the political ideologies described in paragraph (1)(A); and

(C) are able to compare the political ideologies described in paragraph (1)(A) with the political ideology of the United States; and

(3) engage with State and local educational leaders to assist high schools in using the curriculum described in paragraph (1) and the resources described in paragraph (2).

SEC. 4. Definitions.

The terms in section 8101 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 7801) shall apply to this Act.

Passed the House of Representatives December 6, 2024.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

This is such an incredibly poorly written bill, they aren't even consistent on the use of sub group identifiers, switching between A,B,C and i,ii,iii seemingly randomly.

This whole thing is basically just granting Zenz and the VOC foundation access to schools to write official curriculum at a federal level.

Honestly with how ham fisted this shit is, most kids will galvanize against this shit. It'll be really obvious when the regular propaganda lesson ends and the super propaganda lesson starts because the teacher will have to make it clear that Congress has told them the have to teach this stuff.

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

the teacher will have to make it clear that Congress has told them the have to teach this stuff.

Will they though?

[-] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Imagine some sports teacher educating the children on this one in a completely sincere and effective manner...yea, nothing could go wrong there!

Like, don't get me wrong, school does indoctrinate people, but drawing direct attention to socialism/communism as bad will only serve to make kids interested in it.

[-] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Wtf. So the rich class just passed a law to indoctrinate our children that they should stay poor?

[-] trumpetnoises@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

better to be hated than ignored

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

They're getting desperate. It was a lot better when "communism sucks" was just something that permeated through cultural osmosis. But now, you're going to get contrarian kids who become communists just to stick it to their teachers. Because there's nothing teens respect more than their high school teachers.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

I'm teaching my kid about communism at home anyway. You know, like how religion should be taught? Oh, I guess the government didn't get thet memo.

[-] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Another day another attack on democracy in the united states

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Do we up or down vote this? What are they scared of?

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