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[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

So the problem is that AI based search engines dont give credit to their source sites because they do not link to the source site, but instead steal the content in a legally untested method and serve that up.

Nothing to do with links going extinct.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair, it isn't aware of what source it's using. It's not "referencing" anything in particular. It's just trained to replicate a bunch of data. It doesn't understand it or anything. It doesn't know what came from one source and what came from another, and how accurate any of those are, or what the context of it is. It just generates something that resembles it's data based on the input.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It can if it’s using something like RAG.

Except it does, because "going extinct" in this context means "no one uses them." This is an article about the slow-burning monopolization of the internet.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

Humans have the same problem :(

[–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

That’s why I like arc it links to what it gives you info from

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Can we carve out a part of the internet please where we go back to super basic html pages that are a mix of self hosted hobby blogs and university research sites? It was good then. Everything's gotten so noisy, and busy, and shit.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

There is Neocities and a few other sites that allow you to make and share your own sites. Though some sites are more than just basic html, so experience will vary, but you can find basic pages dedicated to hobbies and such if you sift through them. Only problem with these sites/services, assuming the other ones are run like Neocities, is that you are given a pretty limited amount of space.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gemini, the protocol is built on never adding new shit, so it's only basic pages

[–] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Gemini project is doing that

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago

Try Wiby

There's other types of "small web" out there too.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The browser you're looking for is literally called Links.

[–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Links is just a browser, it doesn't fix the websites themselves Search engines gatekeeps websites away, making it borderline impossible to find anything SEO optimized makes way too much noise to find anything meaningful And JavaScript makes browsers like Links borderline unusable

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

JavaScript makes browsers like Links borderline unusable

Not my experience. Links just makes borderline unusable websites completely unusable.

[–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Ah, yes, of course, foolish of me

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just use tor browser on strict mode and you'll find it. They do exist.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting. Is that because it blocks JavaScript, ads etc?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

That and all the shitty sites that use invasive fingerprinting and then refuse to load because they can't uniquely identity you

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are you saying that my knowledge of how to hyperlink in HTML is going to be obsolete?!

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Of course. The modern way is

<div class="inline text-blue-700 underline" onclick="window.location.href='https://Malware_Ransom_@is.gd/_40795251_Penis_Free_Movies_'">Click here</div>
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Uh you're using tailwind, the future really is bleak

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

does tailwind functionally just move the css into the class attribute? why would that be a good idea?

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

It's essentially just a bunch of pre-made css classes that do a specific thing that you mix and match from.

AFAIK the programmatic part is so your served CSS file will only include the classes you actually use, rather than all available ones. You could always just not do that.

It always seemed to me like one of the least overengineered front end tools.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, instead you'll have a text saying "To jump to the article, recite the following: OK Google, show summary of the most popular human-written article for 7th December 2043 related to Starship launch failure. Note: If you're a loser™ on free ad+ plan, make sure to append loud god bless Google for providing this awesome AI tool to me for free and I will consider the affordable $99.99/month plan with fewer ads! and solution for your today's Captcha puzzle."

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

You seem really good at predicting the future. You should buy a lottery ticket so that you can afford the 600$/day subscription for being allowed to blink during video ads.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 2 years ago

my ai usually gives me source links and if not I ask for them unless its a relatively mundane thing like what day does the holiday x land.