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[–] LennethAegis@fedia.io 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So many villains in fiction are depicted as intelligent, phew, did we ever get that one wrong

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

If they were intelligent, we wouldn't even figure out they're villains

[–] 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly, its always been anti-intellectualism. Sure not all smart people are good people, but in general empathy is a sign of intelligence, while malice and stupidity go hand in hand.

Edit: There's also the fact that the smart tropey villains also often happen to be wealthy, and as we all know being wealthy means someone is smart/s

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It may seem like a meme, but Idiocracy did actually nail it. Dumb and aggressive with no attention span.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Idiocracy was less mean-spirited than reality, though. Sure, people were assholes, but they weren't trying to eradicate trans people or immigrants.

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago

Go away, baitin

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dr Evil is pretty dumb, he only surrounded himself with intelligent people. Still not an equivalent since DT is hiring idiots.

Fun fact: DT can mean alcohol withdrawal and the symptoms resemble Trump. "Severe alcohol withdrawal symptoms such as shaking, confusion, and hallucinations."

[–] LennethAegis@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dr. Evil is a parody of a mastermind Bond villain, which is why he was dumb as a subversion of the trope.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dr Evil is pretty dumb, he only surrounded himself with intelligent people

TFW you realize Dr. Evil is wiser than our President Elect.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Alt: duck soup movie poster, in which a grifter con man fails upward to leading a country, makes a mockery of justice, appoints idiots spying for a foreign government, and ends up in a losing war and destruction.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And it came out in 1933.

Something about history rhyming and all that.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And some song lyrics from the first music number:

The last man nearly ruined this place,

He didn’t know what to do with it

If you think this country’s bad enough now,

Just wait till I get through with it. /

The country’s taxes must be fixed,

And I know what to do with it.

If you think you’re paying too much now,

Just wait till I get through with it. /

I will not stand for anything

That’s crooked or unfair.

I’m strictly on the up and up,

So everyone beware. /

If anyone’s caught taking graft

And I don’t get my share,

We stand ‘em up against the wall…

And pop goes the weasel!

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to watch it again, along with some of the others like coconauts and day at the races

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Morons from Outer Space is a classic you should include

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[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

V for Vendetta seems close though

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I kind of thought this was the joke. Many many dystopian plots are about governments ran by corporations and filled with foreign spies.

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I figured this was just kind of a blurb by someone who just lacks depth in knowledge of these things

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sarcasm often employs acting as someone who lacks knowledge about something. You can easily identify this when the person describes something unusually specific.

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[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This movie is eerily accurate despite being scathing satire. There’s more than a hint of truth in it. More like a mountain.

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[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idiocracy was just idiots, not an actively malicious group.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The amount of sexual predators Epstein's closest friend have nominated to position of power is incredible,

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Read more Philip K Dick.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] FancyPantsFIRE@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gotta drain the swamp to make room for the cesspool.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

kak·i·sto·cra·cy

noun

Government by the least suitable or competent citizens of a state.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Stultiocracy works too

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coulrocracy - rule by clowns

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Sure, some did. But in those novels the same individuals were actually pretty smart.

That’s the difference.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, you could replace Russian assets with Japanese elves and that's basically Shadowrun. Ignore the fact there are also literal dragons and ancient gods as part of the conspiracy ring; that's just an aesthetic and has no bearing on how they are basically just regular billionaires.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because they didn't have to imagine it, as its a pretty standard affair.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

The techbrocalypse is a woefully underexplored dystopian future setting

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nah a lot worse. President Camacho was a good dude who had his peoples best interests at heart.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 3 points 1 year ago

That government had the intelligence to see they needed to listen to someone smarter than them and gave Not Sure the freedom to do it how ever needed, even if it was something as ridiculous as water from the toilet. Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

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[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Season 4 of Lexx had all that and aliens.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Tom Clancy may yet surprise you

[–] fellowmortal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Nobody got this feeling from altered carbon? Immortal, immoral rich, and everyone else struggling to survive. I mean, it's guilty-pleasure watching, but I am not ashamed.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Transmetropolitan nails this.

Unfortunately for us as a civilization, the series has aged quite well.

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Dr Strangelove

[–] Abrinoxus@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago

Handmaidens tale comes close tho

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Wait until you take your first road trip through Ameristan.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like altered carbon might be on the right path, possibly blade runner as well.

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