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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I mean, you could replace Russian assets with Japanese elves and that's basically Shadowrun. Ignore the fact there are also literal dragons and ancient gods as part of the conspiracy ring; that's just an aesthetic and has no bearing on how they are basically just regular billionaires.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

The techbrocalypse is a woefully underexplored dystopian future setting

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

There was a Tom Clancy novel, either Sum of All Fears or Red Storm Rising, where the president and cabinet were a bunch of stupid fuckups that kept on making bad decisions taking us closer to World War 3.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

And the president elect checks every one of those boxes.

[–] Abrinoxus@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago

Handmaidens tale comes close tho

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 12 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

This movie is eerily accurate despite being scathing satire. There’s more than a hint of truth in it. More like a mountain.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Nah a lot worse. President Camacho was a good dude who had his peoples best interests at heart.

[–] whyalone@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Not even!!!!! Nobody ever imagined such a horrible scenario

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 41 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Alt: duck soup movie poster, in which a grifter con man fails upward to leading a country, makes a mockery of justice, appoints idiots spying for a foreign government, and ends up in a losing war and destruction.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

And it came out in 1933.

Something about history rhyming and all that.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

And some song lyrics from the first music number:

The last man nearly ruined this place,

He didn’t know what to do with it

If you think this country’s bad enough now,

Just wait till I get through with it. /

The country’s taxes must be fixed,

And I know what to do with it.

If you think you’re paying too much now,

Just wait till I get through with it. /

I will not stand for anything

That’s crooked or unfair.

I’m strictly on the up and up,

So everyone beware. /

If anyone’s caught taking graft

And I don’t get my share,

We stand ‘em up against the wall…

And pop goes the weasel!

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I have to watch it again, along with some of the others like coconauts and day at the races

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 hours ago

Morons from Outer Space is a classic you should include

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[–] LennethAegis@fedia.io 52 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

So many villains in fiction are depicted as intelligent, phew, did we ever get that one wrong

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

It may seem like a meme, but Idiocracy did actually nail it. Dumb and aggressive with no attention span.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Idiocracy was less mean-spirited than reality, though. Sure, people were assholes, but they weren't trying to eradicate trans people or immigrants.

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Go away, baitin

[–] tibi@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

No they didn't. The president recognized a smart person and put them in charge to fix their problems. Do you see the Trump administration doing that?

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 27 points 15 hours ago

If they were intelligent, we wouldn't even figure out they're villains

[–] 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Honestly, its always been anti-intellectualism. Sure not all smart people are good people, but in general empathy is a sign of intelligence, while malice and stupidity go hand in hand.

Edit: There's also the fact that the smart tropey villains also often happen to be wealthy, and as we all know being wealthy means someone is smart/s

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[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The last, uhh, 24 years keep reminding me of this line by Yeats:

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst   

Are full of passionate intensity."

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

V for Vendetta seems close though

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I kind of thought this was the joke. Many many dystopian plots are about governments ran by corporations and filled with foreign spies.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Tom Clancy may yet surprise you

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The amount of sexual predators Epstein's closest friend have nominated to position of power is incredible,

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Season 4 of Lexx had all that and aliens.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)
[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (4 children)

Transmetropolitan nails this.

Unfortunately for us as a civilization, the series has aged quite well.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Oh man Transmetropolitan, Judge Dredd, and some other deeply satirical stories like Harrison Bergeron have ended up being closer to reality than even the best attempts at dystopia: Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451 (though its critique of what is essentially social media is on point), Minority Report (let's see how AI in law enforcement goes...), Handmaid's Tale...

I save a special spot for 1984 because our technology is spying on us, our governments and billionaires are using the media to manufacture consent, and the lies and danger around us make us not trust each other. 1984 did get pretty close, but 1984 was made with the assumption that our elites are competent and willing to work together and that does not seem to be the case actually. That's our one saving grace and we need to act on it as soon as possible.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

My God, how I miss Warren Ellis.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Neither the Beast nor the Smiler are ignorant, conspiracy theorists, or foreign assets though (grifters and sex criminals, most definitely, I'll give you that, especially the Smiler, but most of the City's population seems to fit in those categories too, so in that sense they do represent their electorate).

They're both quite competent and intelligent psychopaths.

Now, if we're talking about the Republican Party Reservation and its associated TV show, or the vat-grown VP...

[–] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

THIS. Where is the Transmetropolitan streaming series? The time has never been more right.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Sure, some did. But in those novels the same individuals were actually pretty smart.

That’s the difference.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 2 points 9 hours ago

I feel like altered carbon might be on the right path, possibly blade runner as well.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

Wait until you take your first road trip through Ameristan.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago

Read more Philip K Dick.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

kak·i·sto·cra·cy

noun

Government by the least suitable or competent citizens of a state.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

On behalf of all the Welsh people I know would you have a problem with “cac” rather than the Dutch based (?) “kak” in this word?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

"Kak" is from Greek. "Cac" is an alternate spelling coming from the same root via French, as in "cacophony" or

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting. I know “kak” from Afrikaans and “cachu” from Welsh. I’ve never seen the word definitively derived from Greek; I always believed the root was from PIE language. What do I know?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I looked up the Dutch "kak" and that's pretty funny. It means "bad" in Greek, but the Dutch meaning still works great - rule by the shittiest people.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 12 hours ago

Stultiocracy works too

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