this post was submitted on 04 Nov 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


Posting Guidelines

All posts should follow this basic structure:

  1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
  2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
  3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
  4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
  5. Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

Rules


Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.


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At some point I have to start wondering if Putin pays these sorts of people.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 84 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The thread the comment was in. Seemed like a very relevant question.

https://lemmy.world/post/21619412

Note that dessalines isn’t even a moderator of the community, but a lemmy.ml instance admin. Instance rule 1 is related to bigotry, so according to Lemmy dev dessalines, it’s bigoted to ask the russian population if they are oppressed or support their country invading ukraine.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's mod rule 1. Admin rule #1 is "Don't get visited by the KGB".

Maybe we shouldn't hang out on servers where Russia has jurisdiction.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wait are you exaggerating/joking or is ML literally hosted in Russia?

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The domain is registered in Mali, hence .ml. Not sure where Dessalines and Nutomic are from.

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[–] illi@lemm.ee 76 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I like it here on lemmy. But people like this being main devs leaves sour taste to it

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

I think a lot of people are going to switch to piefed once that gets more fleshed out. It federates with all lemmy but has a different and more open dev team working on it. They already have a bunch of cool features lemmy is currently lacking.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Piefed looks like an interesting project for sure. I don't know much about it though - are they getting close to feature parity with Lemmy?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In many ways they already are ahead. The front end is a bit wonky though, and some of the foundational features are still catching up (it's fully functioning though).

For one thing, they have "categories" of communities, and for another I can block all users from any instance I choose - though there is really no easy way to accomplish that while still on Lemmy proper.

But like when you upvote something, later it remembers that but won't show you the color. The interface is really pretty though, and solves several of the issues I had with Lemmy, like another one is that you can turn on viewing or both the upvote and separate downvote counts, which for Lemmy iirc you can only see that for comments, but for posts that only shows on the mobile site yet not on the desktop for some reason.

The PieFed devs are super responsive, quite extraordinary so imho. It's like they care or something (uh... cause they do, ofc!:-).

So especially since Lemmy is not perfect either, check out both Mbin and PieFed and just see them in action without an account, just for the fun of it.:-)

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's no way Python and Flask are going to scale as well as Rust. It's going to require more hardware to run and be able to handle fewer users.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The DB is all that matters. Python can scale very well through parallelization. So long as one doesn't restrict themselves to one process, there's really little chokepoint.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Now i recall why there's a push against migrating to lemmy when reddit blackout happened. I thought it doesn't really matter, turns out they're right.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, it was and is the major issue with lemmy I think.

On the other hand, it's an open source project amd there are likely other contributors that don't agree with them ideologically. And as long as you don't interact with the .ml instance it should not effect you.

There will be assholes everywhere.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago

Tankies gonna tank. Never question the orthodoxy in an echo bunker.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like using Lemmy.ml here is cheating.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

perhaps I should have posted in !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works but that sub is basically preaching to the choir

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 13 points 2 months ago

Still good to collect stuff there

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

You can cross-post it there, I feel like there is merit to having this get as much exposure as possible. Also !modabuse@lemmy.sdf.org is another good one, it's a bit smaller but still good place to share stuff like this.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

The best reason to use MWoG is how much its existence upsets the tankies. Dessalines in particular is obviosly extremely fragile.

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (13 children)

Pick whatever instance you find first, they said. It doesn't really matter which one, you can participate all over lemmy, they said.

Now every time i post a comment, people automatically assume I'm pro Russia and a tankie on account of having an account on lemmy.ml

This sucks. I can't believe I'm gonna have to migrate instances to be taken seriously on discussions.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

sorry to hear that. My first account was on ML too.

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[–] 7oo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago

Tankies haven't learned that ignoring things to reduce visibility tend to be more effective censorship than creating a streisand effect.

That's how the west learnt to do deal with it. Manipulate it in the backend, not the front, and if caught, blame it on a bug.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I legit would not be surprised if Dessalines takes money from some unsavory people to operate .ml as a kind of information war training ground.

User donations are certainly not generating him any real cash flow.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

I'd be surprised if Lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and Hexbear don't get funding from the Kremlin/CCP

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What's rule 1 anyway? I don't want to wade into that cesspool to find out?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Rule 1 is whatever they want it to be. They don't moderate anything in good faith at ml.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

much like codes of conduct I feel like it's a false flag to handwave bad moderation using questionable interpretations of subjective terminology.

instance rule 1 is no bigotry.

Since dessalines is not a mod but an instance admin I assume that’s the justification for the removal.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I could see a strong argument for personal safety around such a question (potential for self-incrimination and going through windows) but bigotry is a head scratcher.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Serious question.. how?

Is everything on Lemmy traceable back to the source?

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago

To be fair, the first part of the sentence kinda sounds like an accusation against Russians. However, it isn't something i would consider worthy to be deleted.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

I remember when the Ukraine war started and in the comments of one of the first reddit posts were full of Russian people saying how they hated it and they just wanted peace. Nowadays I can't remember the last time I saw someone who is Russian on reddit or Lemmy really.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

Translating .ml rules as they're actually enforced:

  1. Don't criticise Russia, China, or Hamas.
  2. Don't criticise ML, LG, HB.

Those rules are enforced regardless of the piece of criticism being valid or invalid.

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