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[-] nightshade@hexbear.net 40 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

If this keeps up we might get a Part 3 to this meme.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 26 points 10 hours ago

It's a welcome change, but she still isn't firm enough. To make her message more firm:

  1. The first paragraph needs to be taken out. You can't say voting is pointless (true) while hyping up this election at the same time.

  2. "There is no doubt that one of the candidates - Trump - is way more dangerous than the other." That's just her capitulating to lesser-evilers. Trump isn't "way more dangerous" than Harris at all outside of him being a shittier imperialist to the imperialist project. As Black revolutionary Imam Jamil Al-Amin said, "Evil is evil. There's nothing in between that."

  3. "With this in mind, my main message to Americans is to remember that you cannot only settle for the least worst option." She needs to get rid of the "only."

To me, it looks like either her original message was a lot firmer but got watered down by one of her close associates who changed her mind/edited the message or she is personally conflicted and hasn't fully crossed the bridge to give up on lesser-evilism.

[-] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 57 points 12 hours ago

I live in sweden and the divide on Greta is hilarious. On one hand you have reactionaries who STILL put stickers like "fuck you greta!" on their shitty cars, on the other you have lib climate activists who seem downright scared of her more based activism and talk about her "having gone too far" in hushed voices. Only ppl I've met that like her now are either MLs or hardcore anarchists. Imagine if she would join a marxist org

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 28 points 10 hours ago

How does one 23 year old with no army "go too far"?

Libs.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 7 hours ago

Libs are absolutely terrified of people saying stuff cause they think power is exchanged via west wing speeches

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 6 hours ago

That's why I've beentaking a study course in Old Enochian. Gonna start speaking unmentionable horrors (things that happened last week that dems have memory holed) in to being

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago

Fuck, liberals actually think spells are real in the old timey finnish rap battle sense. We are so cooked.

[-] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 13 points 10 hours ago

It's the mirror image of the reactionary "this kind of activism only pushes people away"

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 19 points 9 hours ago

Idk if it ever aired outside the US but back in the 90s there was a kids show called Captain Planet and these five woke dei kids were like ring wraiths for Gaia and they'd like set oil executives and loggers on fire and if things got too tough they'd combine their ring powers to summer Captain Planet, a cheerful blue murder himbo who would use super powers to do eco-terrorism. This was a show for children! One regular ass tv! It could never happen today. Never. It wouldn't be tolerated.

[-] Ithorian@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Well there's The Harley Quinn Show but obviously the target audience is a bit different.

[-] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 16 points 9 hours ago

Oh, I've seen it too. Many shows back then had eco activism as a good thing, or at least oil execs as villains. I think even that weird "Motormice from Mars" show had an oil baron as the main antagonist.

And I don't think it couldn't happen now. Media, even when revolutionary on the surface, is barely driving real world engagement and can be easily defanged. We live in the revival era of anti-capitalist messaging in media (film and even video games), and yet it's been fully consumed by capital. I hate Zizek and his clique, but Mark Fisher was spot on in Capitalist Realism.

Avatar, one of the biggest box office successes in the world, has a blatant anti-colonial message yet most people don't apply it to the obvious parallells in the rral world. We just consume, feel good for a moment for agreeing with the obvious morally correct choice, then do fuck all about it. And execs know it.

sorry for the doomer note here

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

yet most people don't apply it to the obvious parallells in the real world

Because they think they don't live in that world. They can't see the parallels because they see their world as flawless.

They think it's all fictional and made-up, and that, because they are receiving their treats, they must therefore live in a utopia.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 11 points 9 hours ago

Captain Planet, he's our hero! Gonna take pollution down to zero!

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 26 points 11 hours ago

Lmao everyone around me says her parents forced her to do activism and she's a fake. Real quiet now that the media has shut up about her because she criticizes the system.

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 10 hours ago

Greta is going for the twin towers

[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 54 points 12 hours ago

Shit, Hexbear is old. I remember people here discussing how we shouldn't be too critical of her because she was still a child. Now she's a young woman and we still shouldn't be too critical of her because she's right. I hope the rest of the generation tries to emulate it.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 35 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It's good that we were right about her longterm trajectory though!

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 32 points 12 hours ago

fidel-salute-big A label I hope she'll embrace if she ever gets called that.

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