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[-] elrik@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

How exactly do Democrats block movement back to the left? What does it even mean to move "back" to the left when the goals of the left are things we literally have never had before?

[-] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 20 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

You want Trump? This is how you get Trump

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

Ranked choices, bitches.

[-] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago

Innuendo Studios has a good video on this in their alt right playbook series. Republicans will gladly appeal to the far right, Democrats want to distance themselves from the left as much as possible and are instead focused on also appealing to the right...

Ultimately, while a lot of the parties policies are different on the surface, Democrats still win when Republicans are in power because they're part of the same class, hoarding wealth works for both sides. Democrats seemingly only exist to make the system vageuly stomachable (is that even a word?) to the rest of America.

[-] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 15 points 1 day ago
[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

As opposed to palpatinable, which is appearing to be democratic until being hit by lightning and then going all in for unlimited power

[-] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Thanks! I knew there was a real word out there

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 81 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To be clear this isn't Russian anti-American propaganda.

It is Mexican.

🇲🇽🖕😎🖕🇲🇽

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

If you replace "democrat" with "mainstream liberals", and "republicans" with "conservatives", then you got a meme about politics in general in most of the developed world.

I don't like them, but it was still heartbreaking to see Demokratikus Koalíció, a mainstream liberal party that was probably the most progressive in the whole Hungarian opposition block at that point, is cozying up to anti-trans ideas.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 days ago
[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 11 points 2 days ago
[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

¡Saludos desde Albuquerque!

[-] eksb@programming.dev 50 points 2 days ago

Support and vote for progressive candidates in primaries.

[-] fishpen0@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

What primary was that exactly. I already voted for her, but let’s be real about how the current center right candidate is the only choice.

[-] ShadyGrove@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Local and state primaries are a thing, and local politics probably affect you more anyway. It's better to start a movement from the bottom up rather than top down.

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

Tried this with Bernie... The DNC rigged the primary... first goal needs to be to take over the Dem party. Which would actually be pretty easy since like 5 people show up to those elections, but only insiders really ever know about them.

If you're curious, every state, and many towns/counties have their own Democrat party... Find yours, figure out who the shills are and get like 10 people to vote for you to replace them during their next elections. The DNC leadership is elected by the state Dems, so once you've taken over your state you can start taking over the DNC.

[-] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago

There aren't any right now, but sign up to PV so you can get notified to do real change.

Ew I'm not a progressive; and what part of the 2020 primaries did you sleep through?

The Dems will literally cancel primaries in order to get the corporate choice in office.

[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago
[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ohai!

I'm glad someone improved it though, I was on my phone when I did it and couldn't get the finger to overlap the sign!

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 21 points 2 days ago

Thank you for the memes to steal

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

At your service, comrade 🫡

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So what you're saying is that we only need to push down on the Democrats lever and we'll fly to the left

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 34 points 1 day ago

Actually, yes. Put pressure on the democrats to change instead of just voting them through, that is a start.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't think anyone here said just vote for them and don't put pressure on them. I'm fact I'm pretty sure everyone says exactly that

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

To be clear though, it's not a "fake" two party system, it's a very real systematically entrenched duopoly.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

And I doubt most of us are "duped". We know this is how it works, and the best strategy is still to keep butting back up against the catch until we have reach the conditions to lift it. Every Dem victory is like a pause button on the rightward slide while we boost candidates for the next primary.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I don't even live in the states anymore and I still vote. The rightward slide affects the whole world, can you imagine what will happen to Ukraine if Trump wins? And after Ukraine, it's war in the Baltics. And then there's Taiwan. And South Korea is probably about to be in trouble too, I'm sensing.

I have full clarity. When the devil is going to take you unless you play the game, you keep playing. He knows you know it's rigged, but you keep playing until maybe you can pull a fast one. It's the only hope.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Voting Harris is the right thing to do from a lesser evil standpoint. I think everyone should, but I understand those who won't from an anti-genocide standpoint and won't blame them for it, unless they vote Trump, that's unacceptable. You might as well write in Bernie if you're thinking Green, they got the same chance of winning. Ultimately, it's on Harris and her campaign strategy for failing to part from Biden on Israel. They are taking that risk, which I think is very dumb and dangerous considering the sentiment of voters, it's on them whether it pans out or not.

What's far more important is for everyone to vote down ballot. Find out which options support progressive policies and vote for them.

[-] yozul@beehaw.org 7 points 2 days ago

You realize this is an argument in favor of voting for Democrats, right? Real progress doesn't happen in a single day in November, but that day in November can stop things from getting worse while real progress happens elsewhere.

[-] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 days ago

That’s right. People don’t realize that Democrats keep moving to the right because when they are in power they have such thin margins that you depend on votes from the likes of Manchin and Sinema.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I guess that is a take if you can't read and comprehend what is actually happening. This is showing how all you have is to go more and more fascist with every day with no let up. You can't make progress because your duopoly only ever moves right. To be clear I don't care who you vote for, your elections or anything about the shit hole Yankee empire.

[-] yozul@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago

Either we're doomed and voting for the Democrats does no harm, or it's possible to pull ourselves out of this spiral and voting for the Democrats could buy us the time we need to do it. I can't see the future, I don't truly know which of us is right, and even if I'm right and it is possible that doesn't necessarily mean we will succeed, but as long as there is even the tiniest shred of uncertainty then it is worth giving ourselves every possible chance. The most powerful military in the world falling fully to fascism will go global, and it will end with a death toll unlike anything the world has ever seen. I'd rather not let that happen, if I have a choice. I may not. It may be too late, but even if I wanted to run, where would I be safe from the US? There is no such place.

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[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Classic case of open minded, forward thinking from the mods here. Can’t take an open discussion about how to do what we all want if it even calls into question current methods. Where does that fall on some sort of political compass thing? Left-> authoritarian?

Before my comment got deleted, the response was “I’m not here to tell you how to accomplish anything.”

…why not? Do we not all want the same thing? If we do, discussing our tactics and a showing a little fuckin solidarity across borders are…kinda important dontcha think? But that does go to prove my original point, that this post isn’t about how to do what we all want, how to solve problems we all see. It’s about patting yourself on the back. We all need to be a little better.

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