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[–] dystop@lemmy.world 169 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] 8ender@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago

It’s not hypocrisy it’s worse. It’s really careful pandering to like 100 different crackpot groups to effectively form the garbage pile that is known as the Republican Party

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s something slightly different than hypocrisy. They’re not only criticizing people who choose to be vaccinated, which is hypocrisy, but the vaccine itself. It seems like a pretty fucked up political agenda to have, but what we’d expect from fox - be contrary, divide people just for the sake of profit and sowing discontent and confusion, and fuck the effects on the country. Or they actually want to harm the populace…

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trying to make Republicans more powerful is wanting to harm the populace

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not clear whether that's their intent or just a side effect.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fox News was created by Roger Ailes after Nixon was impeached for this exact purpose. It is not a side effect.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I meant whether harming the populace is a specific conscious goal.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 93 points 1 year ago (7 children)

These people should read up on what polio does to people, and how a vaccine pretty much eliminated it globally.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're cosplaying being a freedom warriors in this culture war. Keith Olbermann talked years ago about how Fox commentators just casually spoke to him as if they didn't believe what they were spewing on air. They didn't. It's all a game or performance art.

It's disgusting.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Keith Olbermann was great until he himself went on to spewing garbage constantly. I found it funny that he spent way to much time posting dogs for adoption when he finally came back after the MSNBC meltdown

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They know. They're not ignorant.

They just don't care.

[–] Changetheview@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ignorance is in their audience, usually not behind the desk.

And that audience hardly knows what it means to read, let alone study something new and use critical thinking to truly comprehend.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

The Dominion lawsuit was fascinating because it showed all the behind the scenes discussions and made it very clear exactly how much Fox knows is utter bullshit on their programs. Seeing them just blatantly admit that they have crackpots on as "experts" regularly and that they're fully aware that they're spewing lies is just really disgusting. Even more so when their own hosts talk about how unhinged these people are and how it's going to get them in trouble only for Rupert to tell them to shut up and stick to the lies being pushed.

[–] Confuzzeled@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Some conspiracy minded people deny that viruses even exist. I've had more than one person tell me that it isn't vaccines that helped get rid of polio and small pox etc it's increased hygiene and such. If you start with a conclusion you can either make facts fit the lie or ignore reality altogether.

They know all about it. They're just grifters.

They get away with lying only because they haven't been sued by it. The times they have, they surprisingly changed their tune (like the voting machine fraud)

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You lost them at "read up"

[–] na_th_an@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You have to use their own language. They don't need to read up, they need to do their own research.

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

My grandma was a nurse on the polio wards, specifically caring for those in iron lungs.

I also had a friend about 45 yrs ago who survived polio, albeit with some major difficulties.

If I ever read anything here from a polio denier I've prepared some choice words for them.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

These cunts will have a bunch of hibbedy-fibbedy-wibbedy-kibbedy to wave that off, too. When you don't actually care about the particulars, evidence - however conclusive - is immaterial.

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now, Fox is getting sued for propagating conspiracy theories for another $800M, J Pirro has moved to take the place of the last batch of hosts who were ousted.

This lawsuit is to recover losses caused to the owners (including pension funds of two states), of stocks caused by flagrant and repeated libel and lies, ruining Fox's reputation. There are other lawsuits pending.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago

Gotta keep kicking these lying fucks in the wallet.

It's the only thing that has a chance of making them stop.

[–] canni@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

That mans laugh really did it for me