262
submitted 2 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Dallas Humber, 34, and Matthew Allison, 37, face 15 counts including soliciting hate crimes and support for terrorism

A white supremacist group that branded itself the Terrorgram Collective drew up a list of high-profile assassination targets including at least one senator and a district court judge, according to a federal indictment unsealed on Monday.

Prosecutors allege that the two leading agitators of the group incited followers on social media to commit hate crimes against Black and Jewish people, immigrants and members of the LGBTQ+ community.

Dallas Humber, 34, of Elk Grove, California; and Matthew Allison, 37, of Boise, Idaho; face 15 counts each of soliciting hate crimes and providing material support to terrorism. US justice department lawyers filed the 37-page indictment in district court in the eastern district of California on Thursday.

It alleges the pair encouraged attacks on government infrastructure, energy facilities and other buildings “to ignite a race war and help accelerate the collapse of government and society”.

top 25 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 40 points 2 months ago

Let's call them what they self admittedly are: terrorists.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago

Fucking Elon stoking this shit.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 21 points 2 months ago

We need to start charging people for stochastic terrorism.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Most likely putin bankrolling these groups.

[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We have our own weirdos and racists. No need to allege foreign interference without at least some evidence.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Of course we do. And a good deal of them are probably useful idiots.

[-] aport@programming.dev 25 points 2 months ago

Boise, Idaho

What a fucking surprise

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I said the same thing about Elk Grove, CA.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

I'll never understand why these assholes think that taking down a power grid will incite a race war.

What the fuck do black people or Hispanic people or immigrants have to do with whether or not the electricity is on? Surely there is no one out there who thinks the electricity keeps running because black people exist...right? I mean, they can't logically blame it going out on black people (or whoever else), what with them being here right now and infrastructure being fine (well, not fine, but functioning).

I know there's no logic to it. But usually I can at least see what the extremist propagandists are aiming to exploit. And I just really cannot connect energy infrastructure to race. It boggles the mind.

[-] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I think they're thinking that people like them are in the majority and they're trying to incite the most desperate or violent racists to start attacking minorities under the cloak of darkness. I've worked and spoken with crazy right wing assholes my whole life. They're the type of people who would easily murder or rape if they think no one is watching and they can get away with it.

The funny thing is religion used to reign a lot of them in. The true believers actually felt like God watched their every move, but most church goers don't even really act like they believe the shit they spew anymore.

I'm not sure that religion reigns anyone in. It isn't structured that way from my understanding, leaving too much to interpretation by the leaders. In my experience, exceptionally racist and activist folks are also religious, and use their chosen religion to support and motivate their actions and beliefs. You're right in that people who are good followers of whatever will be more pacifist (you didn't say that exactly but I think that is what you were at), but there aren't that many folks who get deep into scripture. In many religions.

[-] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I'm just speaking from experience growing up in churches. The people who would go to church and only behave because they think God is watching are the people trying to get their reward from it. I've known some really decent people, but they were very rare. The majority were there for themselves.

The thing is I've seen many of those same people keep the rhetoric, but leave the churches for the most part.

That's pretty fair. My experience (while young) was similar. I am mainly speaking to the racist side of things, that seems to apply to religions including, and outside of, Christianity. At some level, it's like politics. Some folks will vote Democrat because that's what they do, some will because they see that as their best option, and some will be activists within that system to foment change. But politics in USA is not religion if you are left leaning so it is harder with fewer real options. Probably no racists vote for Democrats.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Thinking things through isn't something most racists are skilled at.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Because the Turner Diaries is the only "literature" they have ever consumed (and even then, most of them probably just read the wiki).

They are not very creative or intelligent.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

If you take out the power, people will get desperate in a matter of days if not hours.

Tensions will rise and they'll strike out randomly looking for scape goats, which, typically, are minorities.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

No they won't. Parts of Texas without power for over a week even after floods cleared, and no one rioted.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I think if the big power outage in New York in 1977 didn't cause a race war, nothing will. It was also in the middle of a heat wave.

There was looting, but there was no race war.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 2 months ago
[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

exactly what i thought of too

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

RIP Trevor, you will be missed

[-] Cattypat@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 2 months ago

man... telegram is not doing too hot lately

hope the U.S. doesn't fuck them over even more than they already have been at this point

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

They're the ones fucking themselves over by allowing this content.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

France can probably already give them all the channel logs decrypted, like Russia has been able to since June 19, 2020. It took them too long to get there, but at least they finally did.

this post was submitted on 09 Sep 2024
262 points (98.9% liked)

News

23296 readers
928 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS