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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 136 points 2 months ago

Bitches with degrees also get two days off a week.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well sure but a decent, independent escort in a city is easily pulling in $200-$500 per client, seeing more than one client per day, and getting paid in cash. There are some expenses to account for but it's pretty feasible to net six figures over the course of a year working just 5 days a week... or so I've heard.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Most SWers get paid per hour, not per client, and that ranges depending on the city, generally $500/hr on average for full service. Most are not high volume (danger goes up from both clients and authorities, which is why high volume tends to not be as intimate and tends to be in a building for that purpose, eg happy ending massages, bunny ranches. Or high volume tends to be strippers who can find clients quickly and easily). Most tend to see men mostly on weekends (demand). Even so, it's still lucrative, can be a good side hustle, and gives you a lot of free time.

There are other payment structures as well. I am a Dominatrix, so how I personally structure my payments are a little different and my relationships with my subs are a little different (nonsexual sex work). I'm extremely low volume, I require ongoing relationships (no one and done), I take on 1-3 subs at maximum. Because I do this, I have very high payment thresholds, which are not hourly but instead usually weekly or monthly and usually include extras like gifts, travel, apartments, etc. I also get a small amount of money through the porn/nudes I make, which are really just advertising for my Dominatrix business (I honestly do not enjoy taking nudes at all, it's not very fun for me).

I partially do this payment structure because of the special relationship of a Domme/sub and things like sub drop, where I may need to be "on call" and available for my subs. BDSM is trauma work, I am confident about that, and subs can be triggered and may need extra assistance afterwards. I do not think it's ethical to do the kind of trauma work that is required in BDSM and then retraumatize them by repeating patterns of neglect and abuse. The healing part of BDSM is that the nightmare ends and gets addressed, or is transformed in some way.

I have a pretty good life. I get to travel all over and I get to do everything I want to do. I have a ton of free time as well. I don't think I'd enjoy being a different type of SWer but I do love being a Dominatrix a LOT. Something about telling a millionaire he's a pathetic baby unfit to lick my feet while he's groveling on his floor in a maid dresss really does it for me 🤌

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

True. But the original post was bragging about working 365 days per year.

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[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

I'm not surprised prostitutes don't get off at work.

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[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

So it's more of a side hustle.

[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Let's just if it's one guy a day. And that already puts you above minimum wage.

Make this a full-time job, get eight guys in a day. $292,000 a year. And you still weren't even be working all day!

At those numbers that's not a side gig, that's just a full career with early retirement depending on lifestyle.

[-] Pete_topkevinbottom@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I'd let dudes bang me for $100 a day, and I'm not even gay. Realistically, how long we talking per session? 5 minutes if they're lucky?

Why not just let 7 dudes a day do it for 100 a pop. $700 for 35 minutes of "work" with 6 days to let my bum hole recover.

Maybe double down a few times before holidays for some extra spending money.

[-] eltrain123@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Well… ya know… std’s and what not…

If it’s a numbers game, how many loads can you take before being exposed to something with life-long consequences, statistically speaking?

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

STDs, protection against being raped, kidnapped/trafficked, or murdered, the travel time and cleanup between clients unless you're in-house, and in that case the cost of maintaining a safe and comfortable space, and finally the side effort you have to work on to maintain a body / appearance that people actually want to fuck. I'm all for sex work being legal, but it should be regulated specifically to protect workers.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

How would regulation fix those things? Versus decriminalization?

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

The same way OSHA prevents workers from being expendable labor because of unsafe workplaces. I don’t want decriminalization. I want legalization. And I know OSHA doesn’t exactly fit the bill, but regulating sex work already exists in Nevada, and it’s much better for said workers.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well, we could just make a law requiring that sex workers own their own means of production and anyone who owns a sex worker's means of production is a human trafficker. But then the other workers in other industries might catch on that they are also being trafficked. Please note that this is what decriminalization does, as it is still illegal to be a pimp - so legalization actually allows for greater exploitation of sex workers by capitalists and banks.

How often a worker should be tested is between her and a doctor and perhaps a public health official. It should not be regulated by lawmakers who don't understand medicine anyway. There are already laws in place about communicating STI status between adults.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I disagree that it should be purely between a sex worker and their doctor. I won’t get into the ownership of workers means of production, as I feel that’s a meta conversation that could be applied to any worker, and in any workers case, I would still want something like OSHA to exist.

I appreciate your perspective, and I’m sure you have far more insight than I do, but as a metaphor, in the sense that if I hire a contractor to build a house, and they and another private party decide the quality and situation of the construction, with no externally required guidelines to be followed except that the contractor can continue building houses, that wouldn’t make me feel safe about my specific house.

In any case, all the best and thanks for the thoughtful response

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes, it should. Just like how we've found abortion has a million medical reasons to be performed and the conversation is best done between a woman and her doctor, STI status is the same, except maybe also add in a public health official from the CDC if there are concerns or questions. That health official can contact trace if the CDC deems it necessary. We probably only need to contact trace for HIV, though, which afaik is what is already done. Maybe syphilis too since that can go in your brain.

There are a few reasons for this. One of them is that empowered/independent sex workers are substantially less likely to have STIs, so it's a waste of resources to test them all the time. We should all be getting tested regularly and we do if we have access to Healthcare and aren't being trafficked (studies show this), but that conversation should be directed by an actual health professional who has seen that actual specific patient because it's so complicated.

The highest group for STI risk are abused people. Really. You can actually just think of STIs as a form of biological abuse and you'd be right. Sex workers who are being trafficked are the ones who are extremely high in STIs because they can't get to doctors, aren't allowed to refuse clients, and are forced to engage in sex without condoms. They are victims and separate from the field of independent workers in terms of risk profile.

Other notable groups with high STI prevalence include: children, especially adults under age 25. The disabled, particularly nonspeaking disabled. And the elderly, particularly memory affected elderly. Why? Because they are fucking victims of abuse. The most likely person to have an STI is someone overlapping these groups - a disabled teenage girl, for instance, who can't talk.

I can't even go with your metaphor about contracting houses due to how far off base it is with the reality of sex work and STIs. STI tests are not done for the client's safety, they are done for the worker's safety.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Then do it. There's nothing stopping you. Go do it. $100 is very cheap so you'll find customers.

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[-] farcaster@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Other way around, benefits without friends.

[-] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Two adults consenting to exchange an agreed upon service for financial gain.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Money is a benefit.

[-] KrankyKong@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Just charge 1000. Too EZ.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

All the sex workers I've known (and dated) had degrees and day jobs that paid alright. Sex work was how they both paid for those degrees and paid for their nice houses and vacations.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 months ago

36.5k minus income tax. Unless you don't pay the IRS like the rich people, but that's illegal (if you are not rich).

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

If you're rich enough to not pay income tax, your money isn't coming from being employed.

[-] sfbing@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Even the $365,000 level is not enough to not pay income tax.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

What I gather from this is that he wants dumb bitches to charge $100 for sex, thinking that they're making 10x as much so they keep going it and he can keep getting laid.

Nobody should date, nor fuck, that person. Not even for $1000, and certainly not for $100.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I suppose we’re all whores in some sense.

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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm sure fucking 365 people in a row over the span of 1 year will have no adverse consequences either, we live in a very safe and comfortable society, and we have good Healthcare

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Weird thing is how below market rate the "idea" is, but it's just to make it easy to multiply and he still fucked it up

[-] Vedlt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I mean, it doesn't take a degree to know 365 x 100 = 36,500 and not 365,000.

But I guess she isn't saying that you need a degree to know that.

[-] takenaps@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Ya she's just clapping back

[-] Vampire@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

But that's as good as ~60k in a job where you pay taxes

[-] ChoppersMo@aussie.zone 10 points 2 months ago

I hope you pay an accountant to do your taxes, because that's way, way off.

If you earn $60k in a state like, NY, your take home amount will be $45,363

CA: $47,763

TX: $49,949

[-] TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

There are different countries with different taxes. And in some they can get close to 50%

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 5 points 2 months ago

Marginal tax rate in California is about 50% for highest bracket (37% federal + 12.3% state).

But 60k is nowhere near that number of course (and effective tax rate is lower than marginal). I'd be surprised if there are any countries where income at ~4x poverty line (for an individual) would have anything near a 50% tax rate, but I could be wrong...

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[-] monogram@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago

In the Netherlands, jokes on you (prostitution is taxed)

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago

Where are taxes that high?

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[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

By sleeping and waking in 2 hour chunks, you'll have 12 days per day, giving you $1000 per day with two days off. Hustle mindset hashtag

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