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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

teach the 12 apostles dialectical materialism via the coconut tree story

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't've cursed an innocent fig tree, that's for fuckin sure

[-] DPRK_Chopra@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

To be fair, it's a shit fruit.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 month ago
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[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago

Learned how to write, so he could write his own definitive autobiography.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Just track down a scribe, way faster.

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[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Probably appeared to Paul in person before ascension, because fuck Paul sounds like a grifter.

[-] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 month ago

I'm not religious, but I think about this a lot. Like, if Jesus was real but Paul was just a grifter and not "divinely inspired" it explains away a lot of the weird new testament doctrine.

[-] context@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

paul was an agent of rome sent to subvert and coopt jesus' revolutionary anti-imperialist movement, beginning the process of transforming that message into one compatible with the ideological superstructure of the roman empire, a process that culminated with constantine and the council of nicaea after three centuries of murdering "heretics"

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I think this theory is better if he wasn't specifically sent, but just a guy saying tons of shit to be famous/wealthy/etc. and Rome allowed his words to spread because they were less confrontational. These things were the "systemic" defense of an existing base-superstructure system.

[-] context@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

he started off as a pharisee, a member of the comprador regime directly persecuting the early christians before his nominal conversion. so i agree, i'm not saying paul was like a roman equivalent of a cia agent or something. but he was part of the system, as you say.

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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Guy who killed a bunch of christians until they became too popular: “g-guys! Trust me! I will invent catholicism and be the true successor of Jesus!”

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[-] crime@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

i simply would have established communism

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Hang out with more lepers and prostitutes

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

and arm them

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Polymorph into a bird and fly the fuck away. Jesus knew magic, man USE IT.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

At which point? I'm guessing the crucifixion but it'd be a sick way to end the sermon on the mount or wrecking the temple.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

When the fuzz started breathing down on his neck, peace out on those roman fools.

[-] DickFuckarelli@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

I probably would have existed since I'm pretty sure the Jesus everyone talks about is pretty much a myth (probable) or an amalgamation of traits from other real people (possible).

[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

there were probably a lot of cool Judean resistance fighters that we'll probably never know anything about

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

And other myths (probable).

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Didn’t non biblical/christian romans attested to Jesus’ crucifixion? He was real, but he was Joseph Smith/L Ron Hubbard plus 3000 years to obfuscate his activities

[-] booty@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

I don't know nearly enough to wade into the discussion but I've definitely seen credible scholars say that he was certainly a real guy and other credible scholars say that he was certainly not a real guy sooo shrug-outta-hecks

As a true centrist I think half of Jesus existed. The crucifixion must've looked real weird

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean there were thousands of guys calling himself the messiah back then. Thousands of guys getting crucified for the same thing. Jesus being one of the thousands isn’t far fetched. I’m just curious how he managed to be more charismatic than the others. There’s more evidence to suggest he’s just a guy than there is evidence to suggest his existence is purely fictional

[-] RION@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

i know little myself but "certainly not a real guy" does not seem like a serious position (nor does "Certainly a real guy" for that matter but less so)

what i've heard is that if jesus were any other guy, the level of information we have about him would be considered enough to assume he very likely existed in some form. but since he's the guy people get real weird about proving or disproving

[-] DickFuckarelli@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From what I've read (and it's been a while) I don't recall ever reading non biblical accounts of Jesus from the time of his supposed life. We know that a church that appears in the bible during the time of Jesus was built some time after he allegedly died so that's already... problematic. Some scholars have pointed out that Jesus got a lot of juice in the years after he was shooting bushes with laser eyes and raising the dead and then resurrected by his dad who is also himself - but to me that's like saying since I see a lot of Garfield movies, comics and coffee mugs in 2024 that therefore Garfield is or was a real cat because no one was pimping Garfield before he entered the zeitgeist as a character beloved by the commonfolk.

I dunno. Just my opinion.

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[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Use my knowledge of advanced prosthetics (omniscience) and carpentry (trade school) to construct a set of breakaway arms and legs, hiding my real limbs in a secret compartment in my cross.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

I would have not tried to reform the local religious institution. that's a surefire way to get got.

I'm more of a lay-in-the-cut complainer and eye roller. gesture subtly toward the guy in the big hat with my chin and mutter, "this fuckin' guy."

live to be like 85, smokin' fat doinks, carve some shit outta wood maybe.

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago
[-] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Protracted Judean People's War

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Nah, protracted war of the Judean people, you revisionist

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[-] booty@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't have gotten executed, skill issue tbh

Oh yeah they had like a bunch of soldiers with spears and swords and shit? Yeah well just don't get caught loser

I'd have just killed all the soldiers with my divine power or whatever

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Wouldn't've died.

[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

honestly i think he did pretty good

i guess it'd be nice to try to explicitly say communism is cool constantly but idk if it would matter much in the end

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

I would have stopped the splitting of the Judean People’s Front with the People’s Front of Judea.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I'd have them all crucified for splitting with The Popular Judean Front

[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

I do not presume to know better than the Lord

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

This is why you don’t rule over a legion of demons, loser

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[-] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

I woulda beem too busy shitting to do much

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Probably just shot some hoops with the boys.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I would simply invent a machine gun. The prophecy says that I needed to sacrifice my life for humanity. Doesn’t say that I needed to be a meek ass pussy

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

I would educate, agitate, and organize.

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[-] Deadend@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

The human body is partially water.

I would turn that into wine if you attack me.

I also would not have claimed to be the child of god.

[-] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Jesus didn't claim to be the child of God. He claimed he was God ("I am THAT I Am") and when someone suggested he was the child of God, he didn't deny it.

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[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I would 100% ditch the monotheism. Roman religion was way more interesting. Keep the radical peace and communal living stuff though, maybe come at it from the angle of "What does Jupiter care which rich kid gets to call himself Caesar? It's on us to build a better world for ourselves."

[-] Facky@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I would've looked straight into the camera and said I support LGBTQ people and then made out with Paul.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wouldn't have sieged Leningrad, just surge rushed it and took it immediately.

More seriously I would have done the thing Mohammed did and insisted upon not translating my word, so that it would be harder to corrupt (still allows for shit like including a bunch of discussion about my words, but at least the words are still there untouched). Also I'd hire a scribe or something to write things down in my time, so it would be definitive. And I'd talk a lot more about how being rich doomed you to hell, like he did in that book that's no longer part of the main canon

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[-] Pili@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I would have organised my followers into an army to liberate Palestine from the Romans.

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

That didn't work out very well when they tried it a few years later in all fairness.

[-] ComradeRat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

34 “Do not suppose that I [Jesus] have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. (Matthew 10:34)

36 [Jesus] said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. (Luke 22:36)

In the story he tried, didn't work unfortunately

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