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[–] ThirdWorldOrder@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And uh… no easily identifiable tattoos?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But then how will people immediately know if they're cool or not???

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As a tangent this is what has always irritated me with movements like the pro- legalization of weed.

I work 9-5 make good money and have 3 kids. I'm north of 40. I am not the same as the Billy bong pothead everyone sees at every rally because people like me stay the fuck away.

There are many of us that do not want to announce ourselves that are in the system actively working to change it for the better of everyone. Tattoos and a torn jacket do not make a punk.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Billy bong pothead is probably also working full time and just as likely to have kids as anyone.

What's the problem that you're getting at? People dressing different? Expression of counter culture?

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm guessing the intention here is that they're fake, marker drawn ones. Still not great, but I'd think the artist who made this would at least understand that much if they understood rules like no phone, no pics, no talking to pigs.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit I actually did tell my daughter not to bring her phone to the protest.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

May I know what's the reason to not bring your phone? Is it due to concerns of being tracked?

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Basically, yes. Plus, it may be unconstitutionally searched if you are detained.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Even when your phone is powered down, some models still ping cell towers. If it pings one, they know your distance to the tower. If it pings two, both towers know your distance, and the overlapping circles would reveal two positions coordinates, one of which you were at. With some contextual information, it's easy to know/prove which one you were at.

If it pings 3 towers, your exact location, and unique identifying information sucha as your phone's IMEI is revealed. So don't bring a cell.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Corporates are even bold enough to brand this as a nice to have feature, they call it "find my device" I think? But we can totally trust them to keep this data absolutely private and secure ! /s

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Samsung actually offers e2e encryption for location data using a pin code but unfortunately it's disabled by default for some reason. also only available for phones, not other pingable devices like wireless earbuds

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well, e2e encryption doesn't give you any guaranty if the encryption and communication protocols are proprietary and you didn't set the encryption key(s) all by yourself. Samsung could very well have the private keys to decrypt the data and give it to anyone they wish.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And cover any identifiable tattoos.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get some fake tattoos and put a rock in your shoe too.

Don't wear any clothes you wear elsewhere or bought in a way that can be tracked back to you.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't remember where I read it, but apparently the rock in shoe thing doesn't work all that well.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the rock in the shoe thing? Never heard that one

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Could just wear 1 regular shoe and 1 platform heel instead of hurting your foot. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] redthings@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Surely that's just another method for hurting your foot

[–] Napain@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

i actually know people like this, i love my life

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like, I get the point, but if you are too much of a coward to put your face with the cause, I am automatically assuming you don’t really care and just want the attention

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But with a mask on and no phone pics, how are you going to get that attention?

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mass of people chanting and holding signs is usually enough to draw the required attention. That's kinda the point.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I thought the commentor meant the OP pic person was doing it for personal attention. Not attention for a cause.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, I think I misunderstood you.

Maybe attention isn’t the right word, basically I feel like you don’t actually support the cause, you just want to pretend you do.

The people who actually care are willing to take those punishments and the sheer fact that they are willing to do so is what shows they care.

Not showing yourself, shows a lack of dedication to your cause, you aren’t willing to sacrifice, other than some time, you won’t have any permanent consequences.

It’s a “put your money where your mouth is thing.”

They want to pretend they care to make themselves feel like they are doing something, but not sign their name for the cause.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, if they arrest you that impedes your ability to continue protesting. There are reasons other than a lack of dedication to keep your identity protected.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that you aren’t willing to take that hit shows a lack of belief in the importance of the cause.

Obviously it matters to you, a little at least and for various different reasons, because you are out there, but the people that really care about their causes are full in their support of them.

It’s like how so many people say they support something, but aren’t willing to sign their name to the petition.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

there's a difference between being willing to take an arrest and getting arrested for something stupid. that's like saying that the point of an army is being willing to die for your country, so the best and bravest are the ones who enlist and then immediately commit suicide. be willing to take a hit, but be strategic about the hits you take and avoid taking a hit for no good reason. it's about getting the thing done, not proving that you're super legit.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

you're anonymous because you want attention