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Pointing fingers at the wrong crowd rule (slrpnk.net)

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[-] Marighost@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

Definitely a planned assassination attempt. Used as the rallying call for his supporters. The picture of him holding his fist up just after being shot at proved it; no one, I believe, would be able to muster that sort of gusto after having a real attempt on their life.

[-] bigbuckalex@lemmy.zip 40 points 5 months ago

Lol, you think he got someone to shoot him in the ear on purpose? You're insane

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago

Clearly you haven't been pumped up on adrenaline. It can absolutely give you the confidence to act like he did.

And don't you think it's a bit contradictory to not have the gusto to throw your fist in the air after being shot but being stone cold calm before getting shot? If it was planned Trump would've known he's going to get shot at and like the coward he is he wouldn't have just stared at the shooter.

Also we don't know the cartridge of the weapon but if the weapon used 556 or 223, then it's very unlikely it was staged because those would shred Trump if they actually hit him. If it was 9mm or 22 it would be more believable, but even then would you really risk killing the candidate just to prop up votes? He didn't seem to be wearing a BP vest so even smaller rounds would have been life threatening.

I very much doubt it was staged or false flag or anything of the sorts. It just doesn't make sense to me. Trump should get an Oscar if it was planned that way.

[-] bamfic@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Adrenaline, and narcissism

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

My dude thinks 223 is big boy bullets

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The idea of shooting any round at someone and expecting to "just wound them" is absurd, but .223/5.56 is definitely in the range of "reliably fatal if applied to the chest or head" .

It might not be a "big boy round" but it's still a rifle round -- if wasn't powerful enough to reliably "incapacitate" (i.e. kill) a human being at 100 yards the world's militaries wouldn't still be using after 40+ years.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

Real men can shrug off any calibre not designed to punch through car engine blocks.

Shit, I hear that if you use enough power tools and watch enough sportsball even those liquid copper jet tank boomy things have a hard time getting through the protective crust of sawdust and testosterone.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

Lol power tools... Literally devices made to make hard work easy, so funny that they became this manly symbol.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

Oh idk, fucksaws are pretty manly. Love a man that knows his way around a fucksaw.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago

.22LR can readily kill someone, with good shot placement. Basically anything interfering with the heart, brain, or causing substantial leaks of the circulatory system is gonna kill someone.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

You're the dude pretending 9mm would be a reasonable false flag ammo lol

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

... you might want to re-read my comment because I'm definitely not saying that. The idea of "Shooting to wound" with any live round is moronic. Even .22lr can easily kill or cripple someone regardless of the shooter's intent.

I take issue with downplaying how powerful .223/5.56 is. Sure, there are absolutely more powerful rifle rounds. That being said, here's a video of cheap surplus 5.56 FMJ punching through 1/4" steel plate at 200 yards.

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

My point was that if you had to have someone shooting at you would you rather they shot 22lr or 223? Shooting any live round at a target you don't actually want to injure or kill is stupid, but if you had to you'd want to use the smallest possible bullet to minimize the damage.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The revelation that this level of conspiracy theory crazy is so prominent on what I thought was the side of reason has revoked my last shreds of faith in humanity.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

You're just falling for Marighost's false flag!

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 months ago

Not with an AR-15 clone. The accuracy on those beyond 100 meters is crap. That was almost assuredly a weapon of convenience.

Now, it's totally possible some operative groomed him to take the shot, if he was already eager enough to make an attack and just needed encouragement / direction. But then even he probably didn't know actually who.