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[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 43 points 6 days ago

So we have multiple murders or attempted murders of Palestinian children in the US since October 7.

But pro-zionist students on college campuses claimed they feel somehow threatened there. Clearly that should be more important than actual attacks.

[-] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

What this woman did was a heinous hate crime. But this isn't the oppression Olympics. There has been a rise in antisemitism too. No need to diminish that in order to assert that hate crimes against Palestinian people is bad.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago

There is a very systematic and deliberate propaganda effort by many US media, infamously the New York times at the forefront to downplay antimuslim and general racist attacks and overexaggerate feelings of insecurity that do not represent actual danger. As a result of this peaceful campus protests including anti-zionist Jews have been brutally beaten down by the police and fascist mobs. So under the pretense of fighting antisemitism Jews are getting beaten up on campus. But according to the Zionists those are the "wrong kind of Jews" or "self hating Jews" so attacking them is justified in their eyes.

[-] FinnFooted@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There's a lot of complexities with different groups downplaying and exadurtating. I won't deny mass disinformation in today's politics and current events. But I'm not going to diminish how a group feels about prejduece against them when they have experienced a mass shooting in 2018, 2 targeted deaths in 2023, a firebombing at a synagog in 2023, and more. The ADL, a pretty credible group (apparently not really), reported a significant increase in antisemitic incidents in 2022, before the conflict in Palestine gained attention and the Israeli government started ramping up their propaganda machine. Bottom line, I don't want to make this some kind of competition, especially on a post where we should be focusing on the abhorrent treatment of this Palestinian child, but antisemitism is a problem too and I don't think its OK to rug sweep the issues either are facing right now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/17/1157788933/la-jewish-shootings-arrest-hate-crimes

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/30/1152461904/new-jersey-synagogue-molotov-cocktail

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/audit-antisemitic-incidents-2022

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago

The ADL was just decided to be a biased source by Wikipedia as its definition of antisemitism is equating antizionism with antisemitism and they are a pro Israeli lobby group. That is not to say that Antisemitism is not a problem. But it is a problem where the perpetrators like in the Synagogue shooting are primarily white nazis. The same groups that then attacked campus protests speaking up for Palestine. So there is not only a trend to shift the blame to muslims and invent "imported antisemitism" like they call it in Germany, but even an unholy alliance between the classic antisemitic nazis and zionist groups

[-] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

On the ADL, you're right. I had historically been under the impression they were credible and haven't update my information because I was trusting NPR. Thank you. But, my point still stands. 2020 onwards has seen a huge uptick in hate crimes targeted towards Jewish people outside of the ADLs statements. Pew research has also covered the issue: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/03/17/anti-jewish-harassment-occurred-in-94-countries-in-2020-up-from-earlier-years/

I am also against the shift to blame Muslims. I'm only taking issue with trying to diminish the rise in antisemitism.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

When antizionism is wrapped up in antisemitism, it’s very easy to see why there is an uptick. There’s no such false equivalence for Palestinians.

[-] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Synagog shootings, of which there were 2 of in 2018 and 2023 in the US, are not atizionism being masked as antisemitism.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

I’m viewing this from after the point when American media started caring about what was happening in Gaza; After October 7th. I don’t believe that tensions before then were anywhere close to what they are now. At least, as shown by the media.

So sure, while I’m not going to say those things didn’t happen, they certainly happened before shit hit the fan.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

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