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submitted 4 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

America has more independent voters than Democrats or Republicans. Are they changing American politics?

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 4 points 4 months ago

Haven't voted for either of the major party candidates in the last several elections. Like many people, I have tried to reform parties from the inside and have also tried elevating third parties and independent candidates. It is frustrating.

The two major parties in the US are baskets of mostly unrelated issues and policy positions. Seems to me that only the most braindead normies agree with even 60% of either these party platforms, much less 90%. All votes seem like "defensive" votes to prevent the excesses of your less-preferred party.

It would be nice to be able to actually vote for something in my lifetime, that actually has a feasible chance of winning.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Call it defensive because it's protecting rights if you want. But one side is protecting rights.

I'm voting for women's right to choose. I'm voting for pot legalization. I'm voting to fund Ukraine. I'm voting for gay rights. I'm voting for trans right to medical treatments. I'm voting to keep public education accurate. I'm voting to keep public libraries stocked. I'm voting for addressing climate change.

And yes, I'm also voting against subverting democracy, corruption, erratic behavior, and domestic terrorism.

90% of the "both sides" arguments are summed up by people who don't realize that open conservatives have been part of the party for a long time, including Joe Manchin.

I don't know all of your views, but as a progressive, it feels like "both sides" people are keeping one foot firmly planted in the radical door.

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