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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 95 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Yep.

TOS fans in 1987: "This Next Generation show is nothing like TOS and ruins everything about Star Trek!"

TNG fans in 1993: "Deep Space 9 isn't about exploration, so it ruins everything about Star Trek!"

DS9 fans in 1995: "Voyager isn't going to have Klingons or Romulans and the only Vulcan is black, so it ruins everything about Star Trek!"

Voyager fans in 2001: "Enterprise is a prequel, so we know exactly what will happen, so it ruins everything about Star Trek!"

Enterprise fans a few years ago- hell, take your pick of bitching.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Enterprise fans a few years ago-

"I wonder if they'll give this show a proper finale? Eh. Probably too much to ask. The intro music isn't bad, at least."

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The intro music isn’t bad, at least.

"The intro music sucks and isn't Star Trek because it's a pop song" was like the very first complaint people made upon seeing the first episode.

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It is a bad, cheesy, non-trek song that we ironically called good for so long we actually started liking it for real.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I guarantee you that not only were there plenty of people who loved it the first time they heard it, there were plenty of people who loved it the first time the heard it on the Rod Stewart album they already owned when the show came out.

Now me, I hate Rod Stewart and I hate that song, but different strokes...

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

It's insidious

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago

that we ironically called good for so long we actually started liking it for real.

Yeah. That was my journey, exactly. Now I'm really fond of it.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

I occasionally sneak that into a playlist while my wife and I are listening to something, and then I leave the room for a bit. I don't do it too often, though, because I don't want a divorce.

[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

I like the song and the intro.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It so reminds me of Rod Stewart "Sailing", Which was used for a TV show in the late 70's. I hated that song more than 40 years ago and I still do, and I hate the theme song to Enterprise sounding like something from the 70's. It seemed to me everything about Enterprise was to make humanity seem backwards and primitive but in a future SciFi setting. Like when one of the first episodes, they are totally surprised that bacteria can contaminate a planet. Something that has been well known and considered already for several decades.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It reminds you of a Rod Stewart song because... it's a Rod Stewart song!

He did it originally. They couldn't afford the rights to his version for the show so they re-recorded it with a guy who sounds kind of like Rod Stewart.

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I get Brian Adams vibes myself.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

You might, but it was a Rod Stewart song. It was also originally in the movie Patch Adams before it was in Enterprise. I don't know why, but I think that's amusing.

Maybe it's because, apparently according to my searching, the songwriter also wrote songs for Bryan Adams?

I was wrong about one thing though: it wasn't on a Stewart album, it was just on the Patch Adams soundtrack album.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

OK that would explain it, but AFAIK if you rerecord it, you still need to pay royalties.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

They did pay royalties. They just paid less than they would have to pay if they used the original song.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ironically the first season of tng was exactly like tos and the show didn't hit is stride until it threw that out and started doing it's own thing

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Several of the scripts were adapted from the aborted Star Trek II TV series, which was going to have most of the original crew return. Spock being the notable exception.

[–] feedmecontent@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think it's stayed TNG and ds9 fans

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You'd be wrong. There are people who consider each of those their favorite Star Trek.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 6 points 5 months ago

Enterprise enjoyers today:

It's been a long road, getting from there to here.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

All Trek fans after Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci showed up: Can we get Berman and Piller back please?

[–] RudeOnTuesdays@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Nobody wants Berman back.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Happy if JJ never gets near a Trek set again, but as far as the new series are concerned, I'd rank them all between "pretty good" and "excellent". Except Picard, but even that mess was at least a better send off than Nemesis.

Berman? Best thing he ever did was stay away from DS9, and that just because he was too busy making Voyager worse.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I would personally think so, but I have talked to people who say the Abramsverse movies are what got them into Trek and are their favorites.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

TBF DS9 did add Star Wars battles as soon as Roddenberry died.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

And none of those other predictions were true either.