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[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 7 months ago

nah it's generally fairly easy to ID mushrooms, the problem is just that if you miss a feature and mistake it for another, you'll fucking liquidize from the inside out.

This is the same reason that you never touch something that looks like a carrot plant in the wild, because it could be that one plant that kills you 3 times over.

I agree that it's generally not worth the risk though, hence why those who pick mushrooms (which is pretty standard to do here in the nordics) stick to like 5 species who have no dangerous lookalikes and actually taste good and are easy to find.

Here in sweden 90% of what people pick is chanterelles or boletes, whose entire families look effectively the same and at worst simply don't taste good. Boletes have ONE slightly toxic species in sweden, and it's bright red and only grows on one island in the baltic sea.

[-] teejay@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

This is the same reason that you never touch something that looks like a carrot plant in the wild

That's funny. I was just thinking to myself "Fuck all this mushroom noise. I'll just stick to eating carrots, no way to mistake those for something else." I guess I'll die quickly in the coming apocalypse.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 7 months ago

This is why we befriend the people who can reliably ID plants and know what is safe to eat, you wouldn't survive an apocalypse alone regardless.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Mhm, society persists even through collapse scenarios mostly for exactly this reason. John the Butcher in 13th century Scotland might have lost his entire village to The Plague, but those guys in the village 3 miles down the road still have people who know how to forage, or hunt, or grow food, etc etc etc.

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

yeah do watch out for hemlock plants, they look very similar to wild carrots

[-] ExtraPartsLeft@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

Spotted water hemlock

"The confusion with parsnips can be fatal as C. maculata is extremely poisonous. It is considered to be North America's most toxic native plant."

"The chief poison is cicutoxin, an unsaturated aliphatic alcohol that is most concentrated in the roots. Upon human consumption, nausea, vomiting, and tremors occur within 30–60 minutes, followed by severe cramps, projectile vomiting, and convulsions."

It supposedly tastes good though.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 19 points 7 months ago

If anyone is curious about the carrot mention, Google where the phrase "Sardonic Grin" came from.

[-] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

Huh. I was thinking Aconitum species when they mentioned carrots.

Sardonic grin just mentions strychnine poisoning, which comes from a tree.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 14 points 7 months ago

No, no. It's hemlock.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oenanthe_crocata

https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/plant-that-produced-ritual-death-smiles-mayve-given-homer-a-neat-phrase

[-] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

Ah, yes. My mistake, did not read the entire wikipedia article there for sardonic grin.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's all good. :) I try to hold back links sometimes to encourage people to go look up stuff, both because the curious will and they come back and contribute some new things. It's good for conversation. Mistakes are the best way to learn. People are neat.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh my, the mechanism of action on that is essentially the opposite of alchohol/benzos and would feel like going through the DTs. That's a very unfun way to go. Interestingly, a suggestive treatment would be benzos/getting blind drunk.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

never touch something that looks like a carrot plant in the wild, because it could be that one plant that kills you 3 times over.

Okay so when you said "Never touch" I was thinking casually "Oh, don't go messing with it or munching on it or whatever. Sound advice."

Looking it up, oh...poison hemlock...you were being dead-exact.

Source

"As his doctor, Christopher Hayner, MD, pointed out, LeBlond didn't have to eat the poisonous plant to fall ill. "Anything you can touch, you can also inhale," he explained to Good Housekeeping. When LeBlond used a chainsaw to cut down the hemlock, tiny particles scattered in the air, and when he breathed them in, they almost killed him."

Oh holy crap. ~~Kill it with fire~~!

"If you do find a suspicious stalk and want to remove it, wear gloves, a face mask, and protective clothing. Dig it out from the roots, rather than cutting it, and never burn it, as the fumes can cause a reaction."

Not even fire can sate its lust for indiscriminate killing?!

Apparently it's a "recent problem" that this stuff is spreading all over the place.

It was as I suspected. Going outside is overrated. 😬