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It’s official: the White Man has declared that genocide is a psyop by Trump, Putin, and Netanyahu (hexbear.net)

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[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Wasn't Crimea supposed to be used as a Jewish homeland at one point?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not sure about that. But the Soviet Union did try to set up an alternative to Israel which they started putting more effort into after realising mistakenly supporting Israel to begin with. The Jewish Autonomous Oblast, which still exists today.

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

I knew about the JAO, but had to look up Crimea to be sure. It was suggested to replace the tatar population and was pushed heavily by the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee before they got purged post ww2

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee

Hmmm

In 1952, as part of the persecution of Jews in the last year part of Stalin's rule (for example, the "Doctors' plot"), most prominent members of the JAC were arrested on trumped-up spying charges, tortured, tried in secret proceedings, and executed in the basement of Lubyanka Prison.

I dispute that. The only person that was killed in Doctor's Plot was the person that fabricated the claims against the doctors.

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah I didn't want to get into the weeds but part of the project falling through was the shutting down of of the JAC. The purging of the JAC is fucked up, but libs feel the need to tie it to the Doctors' Plot for no reason. They are very different in how they got prosecuted and why. Stalin doesn't really comment or seem aware of the prosecution of the doctors' plot after the initial finding that there was no wrongdoing, whereas he did comment on and had ideological disputes with the JAC at the end.

It is actually what started to divide him and Molotov politically. Another part of the liberal need to use tragedy as a cynical cudgel is calling the execution of the JAC leaders the "night of murdered poets" trying to compare it to the Night of Long Knives and Night of Broken Glass. One of which means comparing them to NSPD members, the other is comparing the wrongful execution and harsh treatment of a few Jews accused of Zionism with the outright slaughter of Jews for merely existing.

It is really gross. And even by wikipedia standards there is no fucking reason to mention the doctos' plot in that sentence. They just get over giddy at being able to mention what they perceive as atrocities. But yeah they definitely did get executed, that's indisputable. Why, was it justified, etc are all debatable, but it had nothing to do with the doctors' plot charges