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Big e🅱️il guberment attacking small innocent ai goop buisness with the vile Copyright Fhforgement pigs
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yeah it's incredibly frustrating how often people here defend and uphold such liberalism.
It just goes to show how insidious the propaganda is, because all the talk is focused on like small property holders who have very little wealth and a portfolio of work that's public but not public domain and how their souls are being stolen by the infernal machine so the natural impulse is to support them as workers, except the reality is that they're never gonna get a cut no matter what: maybe their work gets cut out entirely, or the hosting site they trusted with their portfolio gets a payout which makes the use "properly licensed" since they inevitably insist they have the right to do whatever they want with anything they host, and the big property holders like Disney and other huge media conglomerates get to use their own libraries or license them out for training, and this all goes into a big proprietary black box to be used to replace professional animators or other film staff or voice actors, etc.
And the result is enclosure and the obliteration of the arts in favor of 100% corporate owned and operated slop machines with minimal human involvement.
It'd take time to synthesize, but I think there's probably an interesting analysis to be had about how this relates to small property holders and their relationship to capital in general, because just typing this out I can't stop thinking about historic peasant movements and their relation to revolutionaries either in support or against them depending on when and where, and how modern yeoman farmers are getting completely fucked by large property holders but side with Capital just because they're scared of losing what little they have and because they rely on hyperexploitation of even less privileged peoples themselves.
This is 100% what's going to happen. The host is going to get paid 20m for everything ever uploaded, and open-source ai models are going to disappear. Then all the artists are going to have to fork over $20/month to Adobe to use ai features.
I just have to wonder if people will realize they've been played or not. The doomer in me says people will celebrate the free market for providing them such a service.
Yeah, it’s a petit bourgeois relationship if you own the IP of your own work.
Sort of? That comes into play more with the ownership of the capital producing it, which is also the case but it's a bit weird to classify "owns a computer and drawing tablet, and uses them productively" in like the same ballpark as "owns many tens of thousands of dollars worth of capital, but still personally works it" because certainly the material pressures on them are different.
Although with how quickly the dialogue turned to "nooo, we must protect the sanctity of property rights!" and from there got turned around to excusing ruinous anti-labor developments from companies that respected property rights, it's not hard to see the same corrupting effect of property ownership intersecting with precarity at play, where the fear of losing what little power and wealth one has makes some people naively accept and support positions that barely benefit (or even harm) them and mostly just protect and serve huge property owners.
im of two minds - on the one hand, property rights are bullshit, but on the other there has to be SOME mechanism to protect the labour of artists no? I agree, by and large a move like this most advances the positions of huge property owners, but on the other hand doing away with copyright protection in its totality under our current system is also going to most impact small scale artists who don't have the wealth to protect their property privately, as compared to those same huge property owners
no matter what, in this situation and under our current system any move is naturally going to benefit the behemoths most, and so on the whole i still think I come down on the side of worker protection via legislation than ditching protections entirely