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Tucson Teacher Fired, You'll never guess who
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No, and I'd prefer if you try to take what I say in good faith, it'll make this discussion easier and maybe even productive - those are silly questions to ask. That isn't the only issue, just the most extreme one. Its about how and when a child learns about any aspect of this topic, and their learnt perspective on it.
Again, two bad things don't make a good thing. I wouldn't want my children to have cops in schools, because I'd worry that they would influence their development & education, being authority figures and role models.
I'm taking what you are saying in as good faith as possible - that is believing that you believe it. These questions are only as silly as your own premise - So incredibly silly. They serve to highlight the fault in your belief. The fact that you so readily dismiss them (combined with your previous debatebrobehaviour) shows you are not acting in good faith.
Again you are here implying that the teacher somehow presents the OF content for the children. That's sick.
Fuck I unblocked you because I thought you might just've been an idiot, goes to show how far good will gets you, I guess.
So why should a teacher be fired from their job if their students decided to sexualize them and actively search for pornography that they might be in?
The students in this particular instance are elementary school kids. So ... if they're searching for porn at that age... what's going on with the parents?
Hot take, elementary school kids shouldn't be held to the same standards of adults. They shouldn't have access to pornography and they especially shouldn't have access to pornography of people they know in real life.
This isn't a blame game, it's about who gets to be protected. The teacher being fired is not saying she did a moral wrong. It's saying I prefer for a classroom of children to avoid any chance of seeing porn of their teacher. If we could guarantee that only adults could access her onlyfans, then it would be different.
You either protect the teacher, or the classroom of children. Neither did anything wrong but you should choose to protect the children in this case.
what is more offensive about "pornography of people they know in real life"? sexworkers are all real people that deserve the same respect and dignity as anyone else, doing sexwork doesn't corrupt one's soul or make all contexts they exist in sexual. should porn performers not be allowed to walk down public sidewalks? there might be kids there!
Hot take, it's not the teacher's responsibility to keep children from accessing sexually explicit material, it's the parent's. If children are accessing the OF account of someone they know in real life, then the parents need to sit down and have a frank, age-appropriate discussion with them about sex work, porn, and appropriate boundaries.
Yes, because they're the responsible adult, by virtue of their job and you'd hope their age and experience, and its their actions that allow it to become a possible risk. Children of course should be taught properly, but they're also impulsive and not wise and lack education, so we don't treat them as responsible for their actions (with caveats) in the same way we do adults.
Small children can have older siblings or friends who might show them that, and sometimes parents aren't responsible or good parents, sometimes children themselves are innapropriate because of harmful upbringing - this might be unusual or unlikely, but with children (and an institution entrusted to care for people's children) any small risk must be treated very seriously.
There is nothing bad about a person doing porn tho, it's entirely separate and irrelevant to being a teacher what are you talking about
it isn't, because teachers aren't just any kind of job, they teach children - naturally vulnerable people. Therefore, we have to limit what kinds of experiences they're exposed to. Because of the way communities work, once this kind of thing becomes public knowledge, everyone knows.
Therefore, there is a risk that children at the school could view the kind of product this person is selling. This is the kind of experience that with children we should limit how and when they're exposed to.
We can't garuntee that every parent is able or willing to ensure that their child isn't exposed to this, and a teacher at the school has increased that risk by producing such content - again because of how communities work, this makes it more likely that such 'scandelous' material would be viewed by children.
A teacher is also a role model, and an authority figure. In any school (that's properly run), if a child said for example 'I want to be a pornographer when I grow up' or 'I want to be a drug dealer when I grow up' (or the childlike equivalent) that would immediately raise a warning flag and be investigated, because of the innate vulnerability of children, and the potential risk and harm that could come from such activities, and that it just is not a normal thing for a child to want or say. If you have a teacher who promotes being a pornographer, it makes this kind of process complicated. While the teacher might not do so 'as a teacher', once it is public knowledge, everyone knows, and children will end up knowing too.
So the best way to avoid any risks and harms, is to say to teachers: 'you can't be a teacher and a pornographer'. Maybe there's nothing bad about doing porn, but no institution entrusted by the community with the care of their children will accept a pornographer teacher.
There's also nothing bad about teachers not being allowed to be pornographers, or drug dealers. Any teacher must be fully aware that if such activities become public knowledge they will be fired - likely for breech of contract. I doubt this was a surprise to the teacher in question.
No, that is wack, get the fuck out of here
Fucking hellworld ass priorities and perspective
Teachers are only allowed to be asexual, atheist, gray blobs who are must not be allowed to exist as their own human person and must conform to the deeply fucked up values of our society
You going to say that teachers who have attended pride/ kink parades should be fired too, next?