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That's kind of ...disturbing?
Lawyer would tear that argument down in a second.
They won't say that in court
Well yeah, they have plenty of other evidence in this case. But it does show the mindset of the police in the US.
That's why it's not evidence and not used in court. This is the rationale a detective uses to identify a suspect and begin looking for evidence. And he's outlining that to a reporter that a phone disconnected from a network at the time of a known crime is suspicious.
I would hope if they try to use that as probable cause, they will have a bad time.
... Yeah. I agree it's disturbing that they can draw suggestions from that.
E: changed conclusions to suggestions, wasn't fully awake.
battery: 0%
Believe it or not, jail.
Obviously a serial killer.
More like battery 100% 😏
i got it
Yea there are many reasons you could be disconnected, wanting to be left alone, on a plane so on airplane mode.., battery died, etc. They just look for any reason to add more slaves in the prison system.
I’ve seen them add people as suspects to crimes because it was determined they left the house with their phone at home, obviously no one has ever forgotten their phone so they must have left it their on purpose
Suspect.... Not convict.
So An investigator can check it out. Nothing more
Well I mostly agree, one issue is putting your phone in airplane mode does absolutely not mean it's disconnected (neither is turning it off, or the battery running out in many cases e.g. iPhones still communicate with the „Find My“ network when your battery runs out or you turn it off). Also, most phones still have reception even when you don't have a connection because for stuff like emergency services your connection is routed over ALL cell towers, not just the ones of your provider. So if you see no bars it doesn't mean you're not communicating with a cell tower.
So to be off the grid the way they're talking about is removing sim + turning it off, or removing the battery. Both of which are rather drastic for „wanting to be left alone“.
I'm not trying to defend their assumptions, I'm just saying their „that person is offline“ is more meaningful than just „he's not receiving my iMessage“ or whatever.
When my phone gets too low I turn it off in case I need it for an emergency
Actually you can buy a privacy bag from Amazon which is used by law enforcement and blocks all EMP and Radio signals, I got one for the holidays and it works really well.
Nobody would ever be convicted of murder solely because their phone was off. But anything can be used by investigators as a prompt to suspect someone and conduct further investigations. And that's fine by me. If you read the article there's a ton of other clues that were adding to make Armstrong interesting, it wasn't just the phone.
Yeah, it can't be the whole puzzle, but if a chronically-online person disconnects the one night they are also linked to a murder in a bunch of other ways, it can be a piece of that puzzle.
Me who's been playing a video game all weekend and hasn't bothered to look at my dead phone for 16 hours: ... what....?
well clearly you're guilty. Hang on a second while we check the cold case files to pin something on you.
Theoretical reporter asks: "Detective, is it possible the battery died because of heavy phone use that day or an old phone with a worn out battery that doesn't hold a long charge?"
Theoretical Det. Jonathan Riley: "Absolutely not; victim of a crime or you’re committing one. Those are the only two possible outcomes."
This is why I ordered a clockwork pi. I want to be portable, connected, but on my terms.
Hmm, sounds interesting. What is it exactly?
Their website seems to be trying to pitch something called a uConsole that I also don't really get the point of, but I'm guessing that's not what you're talking about about.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. The uconsole I ordered has an open cellular modem and I'm planning on getting all my messaging working through matrix bridges. Good luck trying to monitor me.
Huh. Guess I'll have to read up on it more, but the pages I saw on the site seemed really vague about what I'd actually want to use it for.