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Oaklander here. Shit has really gone downhill over the past decade. Tents started popping up about 15 years ago, and now some parts of town honestly make District 9 look nice. I see stuff in this down that I never thought I would see in an American city.
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Context: this is what I drive through to get to the hardware store. This street view is 3 years old. It’s actually worse now.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/z3NLJ4wMLqRYc58o9?g_st=ic
I clicked that thinking it would look like the bad parts of Paris. I was not expecting the bad parts of Fallout
Jesus fuck
My guess is that the map view folks are too scared to go back now. That thing is 3 years old.
When I looked at it, it said 7 months ago. So someone braved it relatively recently.
Crazy how a place with so much wealth can have so many people living in destitute.
I guess that's what we get when we're just passing a bunch of money around at the top.
All that wealth is owned by a minuscule fraction of the population. The rest of the 99% are poor.
I get tired of hearing that America is a wealthy country. It’s not the people that are wealthy. It’s just 1% of the population that is wealthy. The rest are poor and just a single missed pay check from being on the street like the people in this photo.
Relatively speaking, Americans are wealthy af.
You should take a look at the rest of the world.
That’s not really true if you account for the purchasing power of the dollar within the US. While Americans might benefit from cheap imported consumer goods, their housing, food, and healthcare costs are incredibly high when compared to other countries.
Yes, and their quality of life is also higher than those countries.
the one creates the other. the middle class is being gutted by the super rich, while congress is paid handsomely to do nothing about anything.
There’s actually a reason for it. The western Supreme Court (the court you go through before the US Supreme Court) made a ruling about a decade ago that all unhoused people can’t be removed from somewhere if there aren’t enough beds in the city for all unhoused people. So basically we can move guy #5 because there aren’t enough beds in shelters for 2,752 homeless people. Recently even Gavin Newsom was asking them to repeal the decision and was banding together with other western state governors and city mayors as they all say the ruling is unfair.
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Sounds like they should be building shelters not trying to repeal a law that is designed to help people.
As soon as we have enough shelters, cities will bus in more homeless.
I'm not made at homeless people. I'm mad that the system is creating almost normalized homelessness. And then that that creates political football.
They're people. We forget that too easily.
If they do that. And you keep accepting new homeless people giving them security and food and helping connect them with work. Perhaps helping to build more shelters. The cycle will continue and grow and expand. The city will become stronger and stronger, and the places busing their homeless out will become weaker and weaker. Accepting them and building on to the city with them is how you win.
It's something we can easily support as a nation. It's simply something wealthy. People don't want to give up any of their privilege to do though.
It's made an issue for the city. And as long as an issue is over 100 miles away, the solutions are simple and not owned by the group.
Having been homeless myself, referring to homeless people as "uNhOuSEd" does absolutely nothing but make you feel a tiny bit more morally superior
You're making zero difference
I'm formally homeless, and I enjoy knowing that people are making the effort to point out that the only difference between us and "them" or "those people" or "the homeless" is that they lack a roof. The word "homeless" has so many negative connotations that there are people trying to reframe it's meaning to be more objective. Everything we say and do has meaning, so changing a narrative is extremely important.
But sure, fuck those people. /s
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Omg it has images from 6 years ago and 7 months ago. The difference is absolutely mind blowing. But also in general, to see how it looks now its just so depressing. I've been reading a book right now that's based in the 1930s and this looks and feels like the Hoovertowns they describe.
It’s really wild. I noticed the lot was up for lease in 2017 also. I’m curious what the story is.
My images wouldn’t show more recent than 2021. Maybe because I’m on mobile.
Contextualizing it with District 9 really paints a bleak dystopia
It's true. I drove truck down there. It literally looks like a warzone. There are clothes lines just hanging from cars everywhere in between tracks for cable cars. RVs on fire. Fires in trunks. It's like Robocop from the 80s was real. Stay the fuck away from International (used to be E14). It's not a good place.
I am willing to risk my life for the Sinaloa trucks in that part of town. If that’s how I go, so be it.
Aite. Ill give you the food trucks. But I ain't even thinking about it at night.
I used to do a taco crawl on my birthday. We’d walk international at night and get a taco at like 6 places. Last time I did that was about 7 or 8 years ago. I might only do it in the day now.
Sinaloa has a place on Telegraph now, and that is a lot less sketchy. But it’s also not quite as good as the truck.
I honestly think that this kind of change is a big part of why my mom became radicalized into MAGA. The area she just moved away from was already bad when she moved there, but it went down hill in a similar way. Over the same time period, she began blaming liberal policies for the problems and became someone who says that Fox News is too liberal and sends me links to the Gateway Pundit as proof for things she believes.
I lived there from 2009 to 2016 and loved it. Was really cool, even though I lived in Ghost Town on San Pablo, no body ever fucked with me or my GF. I came back after 3 years abroad and was devastated to see how bad it became. Then I went back in the "post" pandemic and I could not believe my fucking eyes that it was even worse. Dramatically worse. Tbf so is San Jose and SF.
I’m hoping the Governor wins that court case and we can start to actually put people in our unused shelter beds.
Holy shit that is awful, this country is a dumpster fire.
Hey, on the bright side, some of those RVs are beachfront property!
There’s not much beach in that area. And the surrounding waterways are dominated by one of America’s largest commercial ports.
That looks like a street corner in Missouri.
Missouri doesn't have as huge a homeless problem as California, there's not as many homeless people come winter time in Missouri.
And that stops this looking like Missouri how?
It takes a couple of years for a homeless camp to reach those levels and that magnitude of squaler.