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White House cancels $5 billion in student debt for 74k borrowers
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$5b out of $1.5T
He's doing what he can. The Supreme Court is not letting him forgive all of it. He tried.
Blame the SC
Or all the Republican states' attorney generals.
Weird way to spell constitution. Get congress to do their job, and Biden wouldn't have to violate the separation of powers to unilaterally try and do things he's not permitted to do.
Honestly an interesting take. The executive has steadily ballooned in its power over the years. Personally I'm glad Biden has the power to at least do this, but would I be happy with Trump or another bad actor having similar latitude in other areas? Tough questions. Of course, these are the same tough questions of checks and balances and federalism that we have been debating since the founding.
That's exactly it. Everyone cheers it when it's their guy, without realizing that a relatively weak executive branch is one of the best safeguards we have against tyranny. Expanding that power sounds great for now, but if Trump takes office again, do we want him having the power to spend on whatever he wants without congressional approval?
Yes there's still a lot to go, but that's still better than $0 of $1.5T, and 74,000 lives have been improved.
What did the other presidents do?
Pump oil and kill brown children. Same as every other president.
Who has the oil barons?
Also new student debts being created ever day..
It's an amazing thing for those individuals it helped, but unless you stop the system, you're just shifting the debt on to other people, and the problems it causes on to a future society, not actually fixing anything or improving society in any substantial way.
I guess we should just do nothing then.
The "argument" that something should be absolutely perfect to warrant taking any kind of action on it, has to be one of the dumbest possible ways of thinking about things.
Well I'd rather the doctor drill a hole in my head to relieve brain swelling than have them wait for a MRSA vaccine/cure while I suffer and die
False equivalence much?
They aren't even giving people money which they could use, they are deleting debt - an imaginary number on a computer there to hold poor people hostage to benefit the rich.
Is not having the debt loom over you a huge relief? Of course it is, I've been in debt, I know the stress it creates.
Is it equivalent in urgency or impact to a life threatening medical condition? No. Especially when your solution is to just shift that life threatening condition on to someone else.
Unless you're also happy to shift a life threatening condition on to someone else too?
Either way, it's the epitome of the "fuck you got mine" mentality, and demonstrates why it's so fucking easy to placate you people - you only care about your own comfort, not the wellbeing of society.
I thought it was an apt metaphor, if an imperfect one. We can issue relief while also working to address the root of the issue, which is also what I was getting at with the analogy. The doctor treats the dangerous symptoms but that doesn't mean they aren't also prescribing antibiotics or that other doctors aren't working for cures etc.
That is to say, Biden is pulling the emergency release here with his hands tied. Real reform has to come via legislation, but relieving immediate debt is a good thing for those it impacts.
Also, it shifts the burden onto "someone else"? Don't these former students pay taxes? I'll happily relieve their debt with my tax dollars, but again that does not mean I think this is the final solution. It's merely a band aid
That’d only be true if people would have otherwise not taken out their new student loans, which seems highly unlikely.
Unless you’re worried about the poor wittle loan agencies.