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submitted 10 months ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/news@lemmy.world

Pope Francis last week approved a ruling at the Vatican that permitted priests to administer blessings to same-sex couples.

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[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

You're contradicting yourself in your own comment my guy. It's always been this way, but that's a tall argument to make, but no change happened? What are you even arguing?

[-] Alto@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

They are catholic after all

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm saying that technically speaking, the Pope hasn't invoked any change in Catholic faith with his preaching, and is instead arguing to a change of understanding of the Catholic doctrine. Its both a big deal and a not-big-deal. It's only a big deal if people make it into a big deal kinda thing. And... yes... people are making it into a bigger deal than it should be.

Not gay people mind you. This is good for LGBT+ communities. The people who are mistaken are the ultra-conservatives who think that things have changed dramatically with this announcement.


Jesus always called upon us to preach and try to understand outsiders. The Good Samaritan for example, was literally a non-religious outsider who Jesus specifically called out as a blessed person. None of this is necessarily "new preaching" from the current Pope, but instead a focus upon other elements of scripture.

Priests can bless sinners, heathens, pagans, etc. etc. Jesus chose literally corrupt Tax Collectors to become his Apostles for example. As such: Priests are supposed to bless even the most sinful among us... and are called to do so. A blessing is not supposed to be condoning a person's behavior or a statement of morality. So even if you are a priest who believes that homosexuality is sinful, there's nothing stopping you from blessing homosexuals (or if you are in that position, its arguably more important for you to bless them. A priest's damn job is to reach out to sinners after all).

The reason such a statement is so annoying to the ultra-conservatives, is because they want to use Catholicism / Religion as a cudgel against gay people, when that never was the purpose of religion to begin with. This is literally a faith that was supposed to spread universally across the world after all. That's literally what it means to be Catholic (IE: universal)


Ultimately, I'm saying yall should work with what the Pope is trying to say here. He's thought deeply about this preaching and its a good argument. Both for Catholics and those outside of it (at least, if you want to understand how Catholics think/preach/etc. etc.)

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Would it be Christianity without the contradictions?

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