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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I feel like by the time the tide turns on gun control people will be so frustrated that repeal of the second will be on the table.

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

The article says it was actually an air rifle pellet, which is probably always going to be legal. They are quite powerful for some models.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

This isn’t a gun control issue.

[–] makunamatata@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 10 months ago

You are right, it is not a gun control issue, it is a gun culture problem.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s wild you’re even questioning whether air powered firearms should be treated the same as a rimfire or centre fire firearm.

There are countries where people require a regular firearm license to own an airsoft gun let alone an airgun.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

In my country Airsoft are completely banned.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it?

Where I live, this would be impossible because you wouldn't be allowed to shoot guns somewhere kids can ride through. That's gun control, and it includes air guns.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What I meant is that this incident didn’t really happen because of some sort of systemic gun control problem. Everyone was being responsible with regards to gun control, it’s just that some kids made a dumb decision and some parents weren’t around to intervene. It doesn’t matter how robust your gun control laws are; there will always be some tragedies. I’m all for stricter gun control laws in the U.S., but that’s not going to result in zero gun fatalities. I sin ppl y honk it’s worthwhile to accept it when shit happens despite everyone doing reasonable things to prevent it and not blaming every gun death on gun laws.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Everyone was being responsible with regards to gun control, it’s just that some kids made a dumb decision and some parents weren’t around to intervene.

Um, "everyone was being responsible" and "parents weren't around" are exclusionary statements. It's impossible to be both with guns (even air guns).

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Except you prove the point.

  • Everyone was being responsible.
  • If gun control was incorporated, responsible people wouldn't have guns at this moment in time. (many irresponsible people wouldn't either by the laws of supply & demand but that's beside the point here)
  • Thus, the child would be alive.
[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago

I think you could argue that any gun incident isn't the result of a "systemic gun control problem," gun control just prevents things. It's a little confusing to say, but a lack of gun control isn't a root cause of gun problems, it's just a solution to them (and an objectively good one imo).

While I understand your point, and think it's fair, I'd add that a part of gun control is the proper education of gun owners such that they have the thought patterns necessary to consider these sorts of possibilities, and to take action to prevent them. It's a big part of the system here, obtaining a gun licence involves training that fundamentally alters your view of responsible gun use.

That said, I'm not going to pretend that gun control would have prevented this, but it should reduce its likelihood.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Oh weird I thought a child was murdered with a gun

[–] Vaginal_blood_fart@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not as long as parents like this are bringing sacrifices

[–] momtheregoesthatman@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Thank you for your contribution, Vaginal_blood_fart.