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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/politics@lemmy.world

The court ruled that the lower court made a mistake in ruling that the woman, Kate Cox, who is more than 20 weeks pregnant, was entitled to a medical exception.

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Ms. Cox asked the lower court for approval after she learned that her fetus had a fatal condition, and after several trips to the emergency room.

In short, the life or health exemptions to abortion bans in Republican-controlled states are meaningless.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 146 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I predict the same shenanigans for exceptions for rape. "You were raped? Ok let's wait for the conviction. It took too long and now you can't get an abortion? Teehee."

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

Fuck, it can even be a struggle for a woman to even be believed that she was raped. Especially in right leaning counties/cities/states. And also fight for an exception? I do wonder have any women been given a medical exception?

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I have yet to hear about any medical exemptions, this was the first which was then discarded.

This rejection will have a chilling affect on the willingness of others to try for an exemption as well.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Even worse, it sounds like it wasn’t entirely settled, just delayed until after it makes no difference

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It’s ver y easy to get an exception - I understand you were raised. Let’s schedule a court date 12 weeks from now to see if you’re under the six week limit

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

The idea that a woman has to prove to legal satisfaction that she was raped in order to get an abortion is so fucking sickening. There shouldn't be the same standard for a raped woman to get an abortion than there is to convict her rapist.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

While I think its sickening, they need some way to at least prove it happened to legal satisfaction. Not the same standard I agree.

If all you had to do was claim rape and invent an imaginary situation the police would never figure out (e.g masked rapist in a no camera area of town when no one was around) then every woman could just claim rape to get an abortion.

Filing a false police report probably has consequences but worse than having an unwanted child?

Although I'm not saying a conviction is needed here, but some sort of medical agreement that rape was likely, however they determine that now with rape kits.

This whole thing is maddening though. They should be able to get an abortion if they want one end of story.

Edit: for anyone who wants to or has downvoted me here, please do tell me how we can ban abortions and have an exception for rape, but not have a way of verifying a rape without allowing 100% of woman to claim rape for 100% of abortions. This shitty situation is reality, and you can't just disagree and say they should be allowed an abortion because they want one. That's not a valid answer to our current situation as shitty as it is.

[-] zarp86@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Edit: for anyone who wants to or has downvoted me here, please do tell me how we can ban abortions and have an exception for rape

The answer here is simple: I reject the premise of the question. Banning abortion but having an exception for rape is morally disingenuous. You can't say "abortion is murder some of the time."

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If that's your stance that's fair, I made an assumption that the downvotes were from people upset that I was explaining why they can't just allow a rape claim without some confirmation a rape actually happened.

Edit: I was just explaining the situation, though.

Edit: also thanks, I appreciate the answer.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

I imagine it'll be more like:
"You were raped? Do you have a photo of yourself in the outfit you were wearing when you were raped? We need see if you were asking for it or not before we make that decision"

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

"Did you orgasm? It's a sin if you were raped and enjoyed it." Wait, that's for church.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

If there was a line between the church and the state we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It’s too bad our country’s founders didn’t consider whether there should be a separation of church and state

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