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You shouldn't dismiss those as imaginary as money doesn't pop out of thin air. All those gains need to be created by real workers being exploited harder elsewhere.
When tech companies that have never made a profit are still being traded for significant amounts of money per share, I'd call it imaginary numbers.
Stock price isn't necessarily tied with profits, nor doesn't have to. It's more of a sign of confidence the company will do better than it currently is. That measurement with a lot of tech companies was tied to increasing marketshare.
The hope is that eventually a company's high marketshare can be leveraged to produce profits later.
"I'm confident that this company that has never made money will make money someday, so I'm going to pay $30 a share for it" still sounds like it's imaginary money to me.
The more apt comparison would simply be gambling, if you wanted to be reductionist.
That’s because you don’t understand how new and growing companies work. You don’t show a “profit” if you invest your revenue back in the company.
No, it's called expected value. Amazon never made a profit for decades until it did.
Bezos opened Amazon in 1994, took it public in '97 and in 2003 it earned its first full-year profit. So 9 years to be exact.
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I mean the fact that it didn't have a profit for many years after that. Until 2017 it was essentially 0 profit because Bezos kept reinvesting the money back into the business
I prefer potential money. Still imaginary, but “could be” money.
Interest means that money does, in fact, pop out of thin air.
The green line requires blood.
The numbers are imagined and have a weak relationship to how many ppl get exploited, but the system as a whole does make people exploit others.