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[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 59 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, the party not having a succesor figure was an important problem, that instead of fixing they went for the stupid shorsighted route, which gave oxygen to every ultra-reactionary force, local and international.

Do I care about term limits in the face of seething ultra-reactionaries doing everything they could to revert back MAS policies, culminating in a literal coup and the subsecuent massacres? Of course not.

Evo never lost a presidential election, and his party did more to politically mobilize people who were up-to-that-moment "non-voters" or blocked from it in several ways, than any other party. Why? Because the other parties represent the interests of powerful minorities. The last thing they wanted is poor disenfranchised people voting.

Do I care about spineless, reactionary comprador journalists, judiciaries and other burocrats? LMAO. That whole scum did everything to maintain the pre-Evo status-quo conditions of Bolivia. Latin America is scourged with them, my country included. Dipshits that could have fitted perfectly in the US Confederacy, for example.

They are a minority that clinges to immense power that has never been democratized. You can't vote for who runs Fox News nor the CNN, nor the Supreme Court, and yet those people have more power over the destiny of a country than any Congressmember.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago

Evo never lost a presidential election

The thing Americans always seem to forget when they talk about "Not a real democracy".

We've had three elections (debateably closer to five or six) of the last eight decided by an electoral college appointing a popular loser to the Presidency, in a country that heavily restricts enfranchisement and barely breaks a 60% participation rate on a good year.

Bolivia had north of 80% turnout and Evo was winning in landslides consistently.

The President of the appointed regional minority party is pointing at the wildly popular leader and claiming the other isn't a liberal democracy.

Really soviet-hmm moment.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

Also one of those times the electoral college didn't even decide things and the Supreme Court came in to pick the winner of the election

Of course none of the justices appointed by George HW Bush recused themselves from the case and every one of them ruled in favor of his son, George W Bush and that's not even getting into how governor jeb rigged the Florida results for his brother

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

the electoral college didn't even decide things and the Supreme Court came in to pick the winner of the election

SCOTUS deciding to stop the count only mattered because the state was Winner Take All.

that's not even getting into how governor jeb rigged the Florida results for his brother

Florida was only the most glaring example. Ohio, Arizona, Georgia, Gore's own home state of Tennessee... There was ratfucking everywhere. But, just like with Nixon in '60, it wasn't just a Republican problem. Gore wasn't willing to open up the can of worms that encompasses how the vote gets counted.

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Now check the turnout % before the 2005 election, never north of 75%

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

Really soviet-hmm moment.

the sdf lib is simply thinking in terms of us-foreign-policy

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

100-com thats why they think social imperialist nordic countries are heckin chungus democracies but MAS was eroding democracy in Bolivia

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