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[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Apple rankings are fake
Apple breeds and cultivars are fake

Apple's taste depends way more on the health of the particular tree and soil than the "cultivar". I've had so many apples from the "same cultivar", even bought from the physically same grocery store only 1 year apart, that taste completely different.

The only breed I've had that maintained any sort of consistency is the Fuji apple (and also the standard Red/Golden Delicious and Granny Smith, but these suck for eating raw). And even then the Fuji has deteriorated a lot over the last 2 decades--I first noticed this in 2011 and it was confirmed via a study in 2013.

Stuff like Pink Lady, Lady Alice, Honeycrisp, has never had any real consistency over the years

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think your apple supply might just be shit. I can pretty consistently buy breeds of apple and get a similar experience

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, I can do that too if I only go for the mass produced unripe green astringent ones (95% of the apples in any grocery store)

when I buy local ripe ones though the experience is wildly different through time

[–] Helmic@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

yeah i'm gonna have to call bullshit here. cultivars can certainly change over time because they're living things, but like if i go pick a honeycrips or sweetango from the grocery store it's gonna taste really good and it's just entirely different from a gala, the difference between cultivars is extremely obvious even if they're not as consistent as a processed product like cheetos. that website even talks about consistency and locality, assuming that the reason fuji apples are popular in japan is that they actually do taste better over there.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

depends on the cultivar, some are pretty consistent (fuji) others not (pink lady, lady alice)

I'm not talking about slight changes like the fuji has gone through, I'm talking totally different tasting apples under the same cultivar name, from the same literal farm with a year of each other

[–] ilyenkov@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Granny Smith, but these suck for eating raw

Wrong