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[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Consumption of animal meat has been done by humans for over 2 million years and there is nothing wrong with it.

I agree that intensive animal farming is bad and humans need to reduce their meat consumption to be more in harmony with nature but it’s not inherently bad.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

done by humans for over 2 million years and there is nothing wrong with it

The former does not imply the latter.

Cooking is a great example - eating cooked food might be the defining feature that seperated homo from other primates, and yet all cooked food is much more carcinogenic than raw.

Just because we literally evolved to do something and have been doing it for millions of years doesn't mean there are no drawbacks, or that it doing it won't kill us.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The former does not imply the latter.

it does. it doesnt conclusively prove it, but it is evidence toward it.

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the king is here, we can finally have it our way!

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago

maybe a different name would make more sense for all the feverish excuses being made for the status quo?

[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just because we literally evolved to do something and have been doing it for millions of years doesn't mean there are no drawbacks

Missed the part where I said no drawbacks.

or that it doing it won't kill us.

Missed this too, apparently.

Are you making the argument that, in the future, eating meat will be determined to be unhealthy even though, as you put it, “we literally evolved to do” it?

Or perhaps there’s nothing wrong with eating meat, in and of itself, but consumption at the current scale is unhealthy? In no small part due to the potential for advanced viruses and illnesses created by jamming a bunch of animals together in confined spaces .

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To me "there is nothing wrong with it" implies there are no negatives, so no drawbacks, no chance it might kill us, etc.

[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Really? To you “there is nothing wrong with it" implies no negatives? None at all?

Are you a Sith? Do you deal only in absolutes?

If you were overhearing a conversation and person A tells person B, “sometimes I do 70 in a 65 zone to keep up with traffic”

And person B says, “there’s nothing wrong with it”

you’d have to chime in and let them know “exceeding the speed limit significantly increases the likelihood of a collision and the severity of injuries in an accident” because they just implied there are no negatives to speeding?

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago

Not particularly. I do question nonsense statements though.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then I’d imagine you struggle daily with the English language.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah well I imagine you struggle to keep the cereal on the spoon on the way to your mouth in the morning but imagining something doesn't really matter now does it?

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because we've always done it makes it okay? We have burned witches for so long, why did we stop? People held animals and ate them when needed, eating them was a luxory or a necessity. We torture animals in the most horrific ways possible and destroy the planet doing so. Everyone with more than two braincells knows it's wrong and unnecessary. We don't kill animals because we need it, we throw away half the animals we torture because we can.

Future generations, if they even exist will absolutely look back on us and wonder what the fuck was wrong with us and why we treated pigs so bad that they eat their own feet or smashed their skulls in because they were scared in their little gas chamber. I know people who like animals are annoying cunts, but you know what's more annoying? Caring for animals and knowing what we do to them because bacon in kinda good i guess.

[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

I agree that intensive animal farming is bad and humans need to reduce their meat consumption to be more in harmony with nature but it’s not inherently bad.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 week ago

What is something that everybody does right now that is common and normal but is actually probably very unhealthy?

Because we’ve always done it makes it okay?

okay != healthy, you have moved the conversation from health outcomes to your personal moral context.

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

your response is literally what this thread is about.

[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So eating meat hasn’t been unhealthy for 2 million+ years but it will become unhealthy all of a sudden?

Or maybe your trying to shoehorn your personal beliefs to fit the question.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The question is basically entirely about personal beliefs

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree that intensive animal farming is bad and humans need to reduce their meat consumption to be more in harmony with nature but it’s not inherently bad.

Well, YES IT IS.
What were you, raised under a rock or something...?

[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, it’s not. Feel free to look up the definition of inherently and argue with the English language though.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure-- feel free to be a ghoul upon modern animal husbandry. And imagine if I was a furious vegan saying that to you.

Doofuses like you would be in their crosshairs ad finem dierum... you complete fool.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No doubt.

I got tired & cranky last night... not a good look.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Happens to the best of us