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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People underestimate the influence a single person can have on history. Without Hitler, there would have been no Nazi Germany. Without Trump, the Nazi movement in the US will fall apart. They're certainly not going away but without a Führer they'll just be a bunch of bickering factions. And none of the other fuckers will be able to rally their base the way Trump did.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There might very well still have been something else bad. The discontent was there, if hitler hadn't been the one to utilize it, it could've been someone else. Same with trump. There's still a good chance that whoever would win the power struggle if the orange suddenly croaked had none of the apparent charisma of trump (not that I think he has any but it clearly works on a lot of people). Fascism is a personality cult, and just replacing that isn't a given, but the initial rise heavily selects for someone who is able to create one. So if not them, it'd likely have been someone else maybe a little later.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Germany might have ended up with some different form of fascism without Hitler. But I doubt things would have turned out quite as badly. Which is pure speculation, of course. Also, there may be another fascist leader after Trump. But again, I doubt he'll have the same kind of following.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah, the Nazis would have won if not for the brave sabotage effort of Hitler, who also killed the man leading the Nazis!

What a hero.