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[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trains and trams are based af

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Buses are pretty great too, to connect the more rural areas

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As long as they're not routed through main commute hubs. Where I live (near a major german city, so there indeed is at least something) all the bus connections to the closest subway station of the city are routed over a small portion of a major street. That alone causes massive delays every morning and often also in the evening when everyone pours in- and out of the city in their gas guzzlers.

I'm very much for having waaay more (semi-subway) trains even in rural areas. Even if it's just small ones that never exceed 50kmh or something, having a trustworthy schedule would be worth it. Connect every milk can! (After giving it 5G)

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is definitely true. Buses are way more susceptible to shitty traffic engineering than railways. Though buses can work really well at traffic choke points too, when good traffic engineering is employed. Where I live, the bus can always zip right past all of the morning rush hour traffic and there is nothing more satisfying than looking out of a bus' window and laughing at all the car-idiots standing still, stuck in traffic :3

But yeah, railways rule, I meant buses for the really bumblefuck places out there where rails wouldn't be economical.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 points 3 days ago

I find it hard to be enthused for trains, trams, and busses any more, since discovering over 20 years ago that clean energy and many other technologies and man-made innovations have been suppressed to maintain out dependence on scarce polluting energy because it's easier to put a meter on to extract rents by. ... So much so... y'know we could have had spaceships each since the 1930s? T Townsend Brown was not the first nor the leading pinnacle. Even back to the mid 1800s, when they were rigging their hot air balloons with faraday cages and high freq e.m. fields to reduce, and even eliminate inertia [... 1 small vacuum-proofing hop, and you have rudimentary interstellar flight capabilities]... ... we never needed rockets, we never needed planes. ... we don't really need buses either. Or cars.

But if we make a nice world, buses still could be very nice to have.

Semi-subway trains too.

And cars even too. Track day, anyone? :)

Whole lot of vertical space unused in this world [and beyond]. We have so much headroom without the crooks holding us down. Heck! Even the crooks, even with their billions and trillions, would be better off, if we availed, each and all, all the emancipatory technologies.