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You're right but also extremely wrong:
Unbeknownst to most, Belgium was one of the absolute WORST colonial powers back in the day, which deserves all the condemnation in the world.
King Leopold II was probably the worst colonialist oppressor of all time.
That being said, MODERN DAY Belgium isn't doing any of that, much less the national football team.
King Leopold is absolutely one of the worse humans we have ever produced.
History doesn't exist in a vacuum I'm afraid. If an entity, whether it's a person or a nation, commits atrocities and then stops doing so after becoming rich from it, can we call that justice?
Colonialism may have come to an end but Belgium is still a neocolonialist nation. So we can't even give it the benefit of saying that it has stopped.
This is for informational purposes only so that people can be as informed as possible.
Colonialism only took on modern forms. It's always been might makes right.
Now with some countries slowly rising from its shadows, a lot of people in the west are pissing their pants that the tables might turn. Even if we're a very long stretch away from that, and climate change is ironically affecting us less than the so-called global south.
Colonialism has generally never played nice for the conquered, however, some, like the Romans, and to a certain extent the Moors, Ottomans, Spanish, and others were somewhat integrating, excesses and plunder non withstanding, and contributed to the conquered. Belgian Congo was pure evil.
I have Belgian blood, BTW.
Fair enough. I was about to be snarky about blaming the football team for it, so thanks for heading that fruitless discussion off at the pass 😁
Too true.
Leopold the First was some random minor German nobility who was placed on the 'throne' iirc.
His son was one of history's more horrific, while still utterly incompetent, monsters.
Europe's royal shuffling is rife with things like that. Most royal families have blood ties with each other, and historically have agreed to place one of theirs on another countries throne to keep collective hold on the continent.
"The German Kaiser (Wilhelm II), Russian Czar (Nicholas II), and English King (George V) were all first cousins. Their grandmother was England's Queen Victoria, making the English and German kings first cousins. The English and Russian kings were also first cousins, as their mothers were sisters."
Thanks, edited the original comment 😁
I thought it was pretty much general knowledge that Belgium was one of the most terrible colinial powers in europe?
I do see the lack of relevance of that for that football game though. It is like talking about the genocide(s) the US was built upon, just because of a football game.